Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle

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I will be updating and outlining this install as information becomes available. The Nag1 transmission is reasonably compact for a 5spd overdrive and extremely tough. Much smaller than the truck RFE transmission. This is not only a option for a Gen3 hemi but also small block guy too. The beauty of it is it has a 3.59 first gear and a OD. Hers the math compared to a Torqueflite.

545RFE* 3.00 1.67/1.50 1.00 0.75 0.67
NAG1 3.59 2.19 1.41 1.00 0.83
Torqueflite 2.77 or 2.45 1.55 1.00

3.59Nag1/2.45Torqueflite x 3.23 rear gear = Equivalent of a 4.72 first gear in a torqueflite car   .83x3.23=2.68

3.59Nag1/2.45Torqueflite x 2.76 rear gear = Equivalent of a 4.04 first gear in a torqueflite car    .83x2,76=2.29

Remember the Nag1 is in 4300lb cars with 500hp engines


In a drag pack car we will be using a ratchet shifter.
Typically on from an old LX, say 2005 Magnum etc…..salvage yard find, inexpensive.

In our test Turbo Jeep, on the dash, shows that it is in drive etc., but we don’t have the auto-stick hooked up where it will show 1,2,3,4,5 on the dash.

I am sure there will be more options as we develop this product. I will be looking into incorporating LX style shifter into a factory console.

Pretty simple
Inputs needed:
* TPS
* Wheel speed / drive shaft speed
* Shifter if available
* MAP for tuning the street driving
* Brake light for unlocking the converter when the brakes are hit.
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David Weber
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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013 - 09:05:30 AM »
Thank you David great information! I will be following this with great anticipation.

Todd
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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013 - 03:36:52 PM »
Dave, do you have any width measurements for the NAG1?  Can you compare that with the size of a 518?  Trying to find out if that can fit in an e body without any cutting.

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Mark

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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013 - 08:19:49 PM »
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Sounds interesting

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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013 - 06:03:18 AM »
Ok this is moving forward. We are now rewiring the shop 2006 Magnum to act like a hot rod standalone test vehicle. Once done we will develope all the street programing for the street rods.  Getting real close gentlemen.
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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013 - 10:02:19 AM »
Any measurements yet on the NAG1, Dave?

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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2013 - 06:22:03 PM »
Any measurements yet on the NAG1, Dave?

Thanks

Have one coming out in a couple weeks will try to get some refence dimensions then.
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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013 - 01:21:11 PM »
Excellent, please PM me what you find out.

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Hey Dave Any updates?
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The shop 2006 Magnum is at the shop that is building the TCM. They are testing final tuning now.
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Dave, what are you using to connect the NAG1 to say, an 8 3/4 rear?  I am understanding that the drveshaft bolts on to the tail of the trans, so some sort of slip joint is needed?

Mark

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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2013 - 12:14:09 PM »
Hey Dave,

Any updates? inquiring minds want to know
Todd

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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013 - 09:26:28 PM »
Hey Dave,

Any updates? inquiring minds want to know

Sorry for the delay guys but customer jobs come first and we have been swamped latley we are still working on this as time allows
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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
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Re: Stand alone controller for 5 speed Nag1 Transmission from Modern Muscle
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