silver 572 with red guts

[brads70]

If you planning on an OD, get 3:73 or higher numerically.  I have 3:55 with a 27" tire and the motor is not "happy" at 65 MPH in OD .... it likes 75-120 mph! 

[hemiken]

You are going to have the torque on your side anyway Bruce, and those Hemi's come on song at higher revs compared to a Wedge. 3:73's would be good, but if you already have 3:54's, give them a try

[cordodge]

thx guys, well right now im thinking of a passon 5-speed so I think 4.10s would be better by the sounds of it. hopefully order it soon and receive it in the spring.   thx bruce

[brads70]

thx guys, well right now im thinking of a passon 5-speed so I think 4.10s would be better by the sounds of it. hopefully order it soon and receive it in the spring.   thx bruce

Sounds about right! 

   Maybe you will have it on the road in time for the Carlisle caravan!   

[cordodge]

hey brad. yeah I am shooting for it to be ready in the spring but you know how it goes, I am only home 8 days out of a month but should be doable. just some big ticket items left #1 alterkation with brakes #2 dana ordering this week with brakes #3 trans/clutch/p/plate/b/housing
#4 tti headers all ready ordered #5 rest of exhaust/rad/carb/brake&gaslines and so on!! add those items up and it is quite a bit and I like to buy things out right without using any savings or credit, so I will buy one buy one till it's done. hopefully before I retire LOL  thx bruce

[anlauto]

I'm installing this "Control Freak" set-up for a guy this week. Not sure how the $4K USD price compares to the Aterkation, but this is a really nice kit and there is a CDN supplier for it too I believe. (spindles and UCAs are included but not shown)

He has 12" Wilwood disc's all around as well.

[cordodge]

hey thx alan, yeah never really looked at the control freak as a lot of people seems to have good things to say about the alterkation, does it look as beefy as the RMS piece?  maybe after you do the install you could post how it all went if you have time. The price is close.  thx bruce

[hemiken]

Hey Bruce ,

Be carefull of what you order buddy, i am thinking what ever you do order will be a weak point in your front end. A Challenger has less strength in the front than what a Barracuda has, so be carefull please mate, either that or be preparred to strengthen what ever front end you put in.

[anlauto]

A Challenger has less strength in the front than what a Barracuda

Can you explain this further ?

[hemiken]

  are you sure you have been working on these cars for years 

Barracuda-Challenger lesson 101.
It is simple really, both Challenger and Barracuda share the nearly exact same front sub frame structure, but when you have everything bolted on as in exterior panels, the Barracuda becomes a much more ridged car than a Challenger. What the Barracuda has that the Challenger does not is the extra strength by way of a header panel, the Challenger has a full length hood that does not help in any additional strength from side to side.
When you go changing out a crossmember, this case in point is the very robust K-fame that is THE integral strength of side to side support along with help from a radiator support. The new cross members offered by many do not replace this support in any sufficient way at all, that little piece of box they provide is not enough to help in any way and will allow more flex than you could imagine. They only consentrate on the strength to hold the shock and steering, now way is it enough.

[anlauto]

Sorry, that MAY be true of a 70 Challenger, but every other year does have side to side support across the front, So your theory, may ring true to a degree, but I don't agree it's sufficient...

[hemiken]

Surely your not trying to compare plastic with steel Their is NO structual strength having a Plastic grille and a bit of tin comapred to a full complex and strong header panel that a Barracuda provides. 

[anlauto]

No, actually I was referring to the steel upper grill support of the 71 Challenger and the fiberglass structure of the 72-74 Challengers, as strong or stronger than the hollow, thin gauge header panel of the 70-74 Cudas.

[hemiken]

You seriously think that the fabric make up of the composite material that a 72-74 Challenger grille is stronger than a 1970-74 Barracuda header panel alone plus the added strength of the insertion of a Barracuda grille  I do not think so, i have done structual engineering and i personally build custom cars and do retoration work of all sorts, i do this after i had been doing years of repair work on city buildings. The composite material back in 1970-1974 by no way or means has the same compound strengths of todays materials, we are talking of a fabric made of a composite mix of fiberglass and plastic, not carbon fibre or kevlar

Hi Bruce I am loving your car and the direction you are traveling buddy It really is an amazing colour combination and i trust you are building it right

[cordodge]

hey thanks for all the info guy's, one thing is for sure the car won't be raced or abused but I will definitely take a good look at whatever front end I purchase. I removed the dummy rear-end and slid the wheels and tires under there to get a actual measurement of the length that I needed to give to Cass at dr diff. here is a couple pics of the tires under the car, they look much better tucked under there.  thx Bruce