silver 572 with red guts

[cordodge]

What K frame system are you using?

Schumacher?

or

An OEM design set up?

Loose the Schumacher set up if that's what you have or you'll be looking at another R & R.   

Hey Topcat, I have an alterkation with the better turning flaming river power rack. well I was talking with tim banning from for hemis only for about half an hour about whats going on with the motor and im going to bring it to him to go over it and he also suggested a cam change while im at it. very nice guy to talk to, and I for sure don't want to get it going only to have it blow up 100 miles down the road. so I guess after 10 years one more wont hurt lol.

Bruce

[cordodge]

Well I built a engine stand for its trip to Tim banning, only about 4 hours from me thank god. Not what I thought I would be doing but maybe things happen for a reason  . Im a little irritated but what can you do. at least when it returns I will know its good to go

[cordodge]

on a side note, what type of fasteners would you guys use or have used on the headers to aluminum hemi heads ?. I have just the bolts but was thinking of studs and nuts? figured since its out may as well change them if need be.

thanks, bruce

[jarven]

Love your build, really nice!
About the cranking issue, I had the same problem, pulled the plugs and the starter managed to crank fine, plugs in and the starter just didn't managed to crank it around properly.
Did you measure the voltage at the starter while cranking? When I checked mine it showed I only had like 8-9Volts while cranking. The battery was old and had turn sour. It just couldn't hold the voltage high up enough.
If healthy it shouldn't go below 11,5Volts while cranking.
You fitted a rear solenoid right? The solenoid could also have a voltage drop over it.

[cordodge]

Love your build, really nice!
About the cranking issue, I had the same problem, pulled the plugs and the starter managed to crank fine, plugs in and the starter just didn't managed to crank it around properly.
Did you measure the voltage at the starter while cranking? When I checked mine it showed I only had like 8-9Volts while cranking. The battery was old and had turn sour. It just couldn't hold the voltage high up enough.
If healthy it shouldn't go below 11,5Volts while cranking.
You fitted a rear solenoid right? The solenoid could also have a voltage drop over it.

Hey thanks Jarven, yeah I hooked it up direct with a couple big cables just to see if it was something electrical but no go.

[anlauto]

I missed something...The the engine going to Tim's ?

I was going to ask if the car would be at Moparfest..

[cordodge]

I missed something...The the engine going to Tim's ?

I was going to ask if the car would be at Moparfest..

I wish Alan, I have the motor out and I am going to bring it to tim, had a great talk with him and after that I decided to have him go through it. as you know once he is done with it it will be good to go. going to change the cam while its apart. I was suppose to drop it off on my way to cape Breton a couple weeks ago but we took the car instead. just got home today so probably first of next week ill take a run down.

I'm a little irritated as I was hoping to have it finished for moparfest but it will have to wait till next year, I am hoping to have it running in the fall and work the bugs out if any over the winter

[BobBejeski]

  I spent the last hour or two going through your entire 34 pages of board,   as what you are doing is so similar to what I want to do with my 71 Cuda. 
I learned a tremendous amount, so its was time well spent.   I am also going with a 572,   and an AlterKation (I live only a half our from their shop, in PA).
I was initially thinking Tremec,  but now I want to investigate the Passion 5speed.     That engine,trans, header  setup sitting on the K was quit a thing to see, and I hope you don't mind,  I made a folder and copied those pics for reference.  The valve covers with the Huge 572 are perfect.  And its great to hear and note what parts suppliers treated you well.
       Getting to the end,  and seeing your motor issues is like a good movie that draws you in and then has a horror twist at the end......Cant wait for you to update and give us the happy ending!

    -Bob

[cordodge]

  I spent the last hour or two going through your entire 34 pages of board,   as what you are doing is so similar to what I want to do with my 71 Cuda. 
I learned a tremendous amount, so its was time well spent.   I am also going with a 572,   and an AlterKation (I live only a half our from their shop, in PA).
I was initially thinking Tremec,  but now I want to investigate the Passion 5speed.     That engine,trans, header  setup sitting on the K was quit a thing to see, and I hope you don't mind,  I made a folder and copied those pics for reference.  The valve covers with the Huge 572 are perfect.  And its great to hear and note what parts suppliers treated you well.
       Getting to the end,  and seeing your motor issues is like a good movie that draws you in and then has a horror twist at the end......Cant wait for you to update and give us the happy ending!

    -Bob

Thanks for the kind words Bob, I would love to have a 71 Cuda as well. It has been a long road but it will be worth it once it is complete, I did not see the issue with the hemi coming but at least when it returns from for hemis only it will be good to go.

As far as suppliers go, Dave and Jon at Roseville moparts cannot be beat, great people to deal with and very knowledgeable as well. they sell the best products available to the hobby in my opinion. also had great dealings with bouchilon  performance, Brewers transmissions, Dr diff, Patmai ( for trim restoration), summit as well is great to deal with. probably missing some but people on this site are amazing and have an unlimited amount of experience and knowledge. Do you have a thread going on your Cuda?

Thanks again, Bruce. 

[BobBejeski]

Thanks for the kind words Bob, I would love to have a 71 Cuda as well. It has been a long road but it will be worth it once it is complete, I did not see the issue with the hemi coming but at least when it returns from for hemis only it will be good to go.

As far as suppliers go, Dave and Jon at Roseville moparts cannot be beat, great people to deal with and very knowledgeable as well. they sell the best products available to the hobby in my opinion. also had great dealings with bouchilon  performance, Brewers transmissions, Dr diff, Patmai ( for trim restoration), summit as well is great to deal with. probably missing some but people on this site are amazing and have an unlimited amount of experience and knowledge. Do you have a thread going on your Cuda?

Thanks again, Bruce.

   Actually,  that's a good idea.    I started a thread getting some feedback about how to clean billboard stripes,  and ended up just talking about hemis and restomod ideas.......

    Heres a pic in the meantime.   Just got it last week after 15 years of saving.     Non-original 340 (Govier claims a font issue on the stamping) and added shaker,  but the car is nut and bolt restored.   Beautiful undercarriage and engine bay.     Don't want to take over your thread with my pics,  so I will do what you said and start one my self.

  -Bob

[cordodge]

   Actually,  that's a good idea.    I started a thread getting some feedback about how to clean billboard stripes,  and ended up just talking about hemis and restomod ideas.......

    Heres a pic in the meantime.   Just got it last week after 15 years of saving.     Non-original 340 (Govier claims a font issue on the stamping) and added shaker,  but the car is nut and bolt restored.   Beautiful undercarriage and engine bay.     Don't want to take over your thread with my pics,  so I will do what you said and start one my self.

  -Bob

WOW, beautiful car!!. looks in amazing shape. You waited a long time but now so worth the wait.

[cordodge]

Well haven't posted in awhile, been working pretty much 7 days a week 12hrs a day since mid August. Had plans on taking the hemi to Tim at for hemis only but never made it yet. everything is just Kinda sitting in the garage. lost a little interest when that happened, now trying to get back at it and I'm thinking man its got to be something so simple I'm missing. I did put some oil in each cylinder awhile ago and I faithfully rolled it over once and awhile. would that bit of oil cause a hydraulic situation?  just thinking of anything right now. everything works as it should valves are free crank and cam spins free with the timing chain off but put it on and put two plugs in the motor anywhere and it builds compression to where you can hardly turn it,  the motor was dynoed and you can tell it ran so not sure what is going on. just thinking I am missing something and would like to just find the issue and fix it and put the damn thing back in.

any thoughts are appreciated as I'm at a loss to what's wrong.

thanks Bruce.

[usraptr]

on a side note, what type of fasteners would you guys use or have used on the headers to aluminum hemi heads ?. I have just the bolts but was thinking of studs and nuts? figured since its out may as well change them if need be.

thanks, bruce

I used the ARP stainless header bolts!  So far, so good! 

[rUNCHARGER]

Tim is a good guy, I would just listen to whatever he says on the engine. It sounds like a strange problem, did you redegree the camshaft? Sounds like the camshaft is in wrong or PV clearance isn't enough and you're bending valves.

Sheldon

[cordodge]

Tim is a good guy, I would just listen to whatever he says on the engine. It sounds like a strange problem, did you redegree the camshaft? Sounds like the camshaft is in wrong or PV clearance isn't enough and you're bending valves.

Sheldon

Hey Sheldon, Yeah I never moved anything. it is all as it was that's the strange thing. motor definitely was run. it's not a interference problem more like valves that are supposed to be opening are not which is cause the compression build up . I did remove the chain to be able to check things separately  and the crank and pistons rotate perfectly and the cam rotates smothly with the pushrods out and all the valves and rocker assembly does not bind at all. so separately they are good put the timing chain back on and some plugs and it hydraulics after a quarter turn. I'm baffled