top speed of hemi e-bodys

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Offline HEMI HUNTER

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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2005 - 11:34:15 AM »
math = :banghead: :banghead: :pissed:
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2005 - 11:56:29 AM »
RPM*D*3.14/(T*R*1056) = Your Speed in MPH

Here is an example:

RPM=RPM (tach reading, like 6500)
T=Transmission gear ratio (whichever gear you are in, like 1.00 for top gear)
R= Rear end ratio (like 3.23)
D= Overall tire diameter in inches (like 28)

6500*28*3.14/(1*3.23*1056) = 167.55

So given this setup, your car will go 167.55 miles per hour at 6500 rpm.


YEP!! Who needs a speedo  :grinno: :grinno:!!! I'm driving only based on what the Sport comp tach is givin the readings, just that ya have to do some calculation OR use the checking radar to find few "corner stone values"  :grinyes:
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2005 - 02:02:44 PM »

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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2005 - 09:23:04 AM »
I like to say first off that I think a Hemi E-Body in stock form would max out around 140 mark. Secondly I would like to know how you guys are coming up with the speed on your cars ??? PLEASE don't tell me that you are going off your stock speedometer. There is NO WAY they are correct at higher speeds. I use race a 67 GTX and in the quarter mile I was clocked at 114.64 mph but the speedometer was saying 135 mph. Especially in the 60's and 70's cars the technology just wasn't there. So unless you have a very accurate way of measuring your speed you really don't know how fast you are going.. I am sure you are all going over one hundred mph but to get a 60's or 70's car in street form to hit the 140's and 150's is a little far out there. Motors may have the power but --suspension--aerodynamics--and so on are a different story. PLEASE don't misunderstand me I am NOT KNOCKING anybody down but just wondering where these numbers are coming from ???????
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Regarding tire size and gearing, if that was all it took, a slant six could turn the same #s.  Nobody disputes Hemis are strong, but tire technology, rolling resistance, friction loss in drivetrain, poor aerodynamics, etc have a more pronounced effect as you go faster.
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2005 - 01:03:41 PM »
yes you're correct.  rolling resistance, aerodynamic drag and all that is what keeps your car from going faster.  for every car there is going to be a point at which the engine can no longer supply enough power to overcome any additional resisting force (the sum of all of these forces).  that point for a hemi is much higher than that for a slant six, which is why the hemi car will have a higher top speed.  but.. IF it were possible for the slant six to turn 6500 rpm with 28" tall tires and a 3.23 rear end ratio, then that slant six would be going 167.55 mph.  my 96 firebird formula has 25" tires, 3.42 rear end ratio and a 0.5:1 6th gear.  its theoretical top speed at redline in 6th gear is 272 mph.  does it have enough power to do 272 mph?  no way.

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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2005 - 02:02:00 AM »
it all comes down to math , generally the max RPM & gearing limit top end , & the 440+6 & hemi had the power to push the wind resistance but the faster you go the more power it takes to accelerate , technically the math is correct & you can go close to 170 with 3.23 gears & tall tires  the question at that point becomes HP to push into the air
 the Hemis generally were speced with 3.55 gears so 145 is about max & you better have a deep oil pan if you intend to drive for long at 6600 rpm
   having 800 hp makes no difference in top speed when you hit redline you are done , now if you used 2.76 gears & a 28" tire & have 800 hp look out it will be fast, & will theoretically do 200MPH @ 6600, add a .71 OD & 270mph is possible but improbable due to aerodynamics  ... I wonder what it feels like doing 200 MPH over the speed limit ???
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2005 - 07:53:00 AM »
....when you hit redline you are done
When I was younger.. a few guys found that out the hard way   ;)
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2005 - 10:56:53 AM »
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2005 - 12:19:59 PM »
If you consider race cars on the strip,from stock/super stock to top fuel,you have to double the power for each second you want to go quicker,okay more or less twice the power,think of it for a second.That says something about the resistance of the air higher up in the speeds.Stock cars 4-500 hp and around 10 sec. top fuel 5-6000 hp 4.5 sec.

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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2005 - 08:59:45 PM »
Man, I hope no insurance companies are reading this thread!  :burnout:
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2005 - 07:12:16 PM »
If you look at Nascar today or back in the `60`s and `70`s they do over 200 with Hemis and even small blocks.Today they have less hp on the restrictor tracks but way better aerodynamics, but with maybe 550-600 hp the Hemi pushed a daytona over 200 mph for the record back in `70.
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2005 - 01:08:23 PM »
what is the top speed with stock tires?
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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2005 - 02:41:35 PM »
if you do the calculations the a hemi challenger on stock tires with 4.10:1 gaer ratio it would top out at 125 mph witch is not very fast. the jeep srt-8 can do 150 mph and the neon srt-4 can do 148 mph both can do mid 13's 1/4 mile witch means the hemi challenger is sad to say not even close to king of the road and if was made to day it wouldnt be even close to top of dodge's performance team. :banghead:

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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2005 - 02:42:47 PM »
Stock tires would not be a good idea

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Re: top speed of hemi e-bodys
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2005 - 03:53:23 PM »
Remember too that back then the speed limit was 75 , which means everyone was doing 90 just to stay with traffic so where does 140 become unobtainable, unsafe yes, unwise definately but winding these cars past 6000 on a top end run was not uncommon, and the reason more speed wasnt obtauined is because these things drove like a wagon and you had to have a pretty big set of balls to keep your foot into it that long. Like my cuda back then had more to go but I liked living and preffered that the car went where I pointed it and not me go for a ride. At those speeds in those cars in those days there was more speed to be had but nothing more to prove, when you feel these things begin to float and drift you had to back out easily too not just shut it down cuz you were on the ragged edge of driveability. The guy who bought my cuda can attest to that ...if he had lived. When done the cuda would fit on your coffee table