Mustang Wheels on a 'Cuda W/ PICS

[72440Cuda]

Who has put Mustang wheels on a E-body? I've seen people with "Bullitt" style wheels.

I really want to put 18"x9"/10" FR500 wheels on my car but not sure what year Mustang back spacing will work and hub bore clearance?
http://www.americanmuscle.com/matte-fr500-18x9-9404.html
http://www.cruizinconceptswholesale.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FR50018X9STEALTHBLACK24MM

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks

[cudazappa]

You will need 1" bolt on spacers to center these on a stock suspension mopar (at least in front, I didn't see specs for the rear). If the hubs are ford pattern, then the easiest method is to turn down the register of the front hubs down about .015" (or modify the rims, but I don't like to do that) and you can even leave those the stock diameter where the spacers bolt on.

9" is tight up front.  Definitely watch yourself for clearance before spending the cash.

[dodj]

I have 9" mustang style fronts. As zappa says you need a one inch adapter. As in you bolt the adapter to the hub and then bolt the wheel to the adapter. I used 10.5 " wheels on the back so i moved the leafs i  with a dr diff 1.5" offset kit. As for the wheel bore call american  muscle. I talked to them a year or two ago and they gave me the bore size of the wheel i was looking at.

[72440Cuda]

Also started a post on Moparts:
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7675901&an=0&page=0#Post7675901

Maybe these TSW Valencias will work
http://www.americanmuscle.com/matte-tsw-valencia-wheels-9904.html#shop-by1

I can get them through Discount Tire and test fit them. If they don't work, no charge. Seem to be a safer bet as far as size and back space and don't look like your ordinary Mustang wheel.

[grimmey71]

Maybe these TSW Valencias will work
http://www.americanmuscle.com/matte-tsw-valencia-wheels-9904.html#shop-by1

I would be all over these if they came in wider sizes

[jordan]

How wide do you need?  9.5 in rim can accept 275  series and 295 series tire: depending on tire.  I am relocating my leafs 1in, and wanted to try to stuff a 295 tire in the rear, and keep the fronts at 255.  I see some people get 275 in front, but I wonder if that is too wide for steering feel.  I know there can be issues with rubs at that size too.  Wouldnt these TSWs seem to fit the bill just right?

[72bluNblu]

How wide do you need?  9.5 in rim can accept 275  series and 295 series tire: depending on tire.  I am relocating my leafs 1in, and wanted to try to stuff a 295 tire in the rear, and keep the fronts at 255.  I see some people get 275 in front, but I wonder if that is too wide for steering feel.  I know there can be issues with rubs at that size too.  Wouldnt these TSWs seem to fit the bill just right?

I've got 17x9's in the front with a 5" backspace and 275/40/17's. My driver's side had no issues with a fairly standard modern alignment -.7 degrees camber, +5 caster, and about 1/16" toe in. Passenger side would rub occasionally going in and out of parking lots, ie, suspension travel with the wheel turned. I went up to -.9 degrees camber, no rubs. Steering feel is just fine, in fact, with my original power steering the steering feel with the 275's is BETTER than the old 235's. These things are way overboosted for power steering. The extra caster helps with the steering feel too, you wouldn't want to run that much with manual steering.

With an 18" rim you can run more backspace though. With a 17" rim you can't run more than about 5.25" of backspace because of the outer tie rod end clearance on the rim. I don't think I could even run 5.25" of backspace with my 17x9's, I really only have about a 1/4" of clearance on the tie rod.

But with an 18" rim the tie rod end is inside the lip of the rim, so you're only limit on backspace is the tire hitting the frame. With my 275's I'm not sure you could run 6" of backspace without rubbing the frame, but you could definitely run more than 5". I think ideally to fit a 275 up front you need 5.25" of backspace on an E-body. That would keep you clear of the fenders and the frame.

How about these?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/black-amr-18x9-0513.html

http://www.americanmuscle.com/charcoal-amr-18x10-0513.html

They come in 18x9 and 18x10. The front 18x9's have a 6.18" backspace, so with a 1" spacer they'd sit at 5.18" which should be pretty close to perfect for a 275/35/18. Rears are at 7.4" backspace, so I think you'd need a spacer out back too.

The 18x9.5" TSW's only have 6" of backspace, so that's only 5" with the spacer you'd need. Might be too tight on the fenders in the front.

[72440Cuda]

I've got 17x9's in the front with a 5" backspace and 275/40/17's. My driver's side had no issues with a fairly standard modern alignment -.7 degrees camber, +5 caster, and about 1/16" toe in. Passenger side would rub occasionally going in and out of parking lots, ie, suspension travel with the wheel turned. I went up to -.9 degrees camber, no rubs. Steering feel is just fine, in fact, with my original power steering the steering feel with the 275's is BETTER than the old 235's. These things are way overboosted for power steering. The extra caster helps with the steering feel too, you wouldn't want to run that much with manual steering.

With an 18" rim you can run more backspace though. With a 17" rim you can't run more than about 5.25" of backspace because of the outer tie rod end clearance on the rim. I don't think I could even run 5.25" of backspace with my 17x9's, I really only have about a 1/4" of clearance on the tie rod.

But with an 18" rim the tie rod end is inside the lip of the rim, so you're only limit on backspace is the tire hitting the frame. With my 275's I'm not sure you could run 6" of backspace without rubbing the frame, but you could definitely run more than 5". I think ideally to fit a 275 up front you need 5.25" of backspace on an E-body. That would keep you clear of the fenders and the frame.

How about these?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/black-amr-18x9-0513.html

http://www.americanmuscle.com/charcoal-amr-18x10-0513.html

They come in 18x9 and 18x10. The front 18x9's have a 6.18" backspace, so with a 1" spacer they'd sit at 5.18" which should be pretty close to perfect for a 275/35/18. Rears are at 7.4" backspace, so I think you'd need a spacer out back too.

The 18x9.5" TSW's only have 6" of backspace, so that's only 5" with the spacer you'd need. Might be too tight on the fenders in the front.

Good to know!

Yeah, I've seen those AMR's. They look nice, but have way too much BS. I also want something with a lip, not flush mount. So far the TSW's seem to fit the bill. I would run 18x8 up front and try and run a 255/40-18 and the 18x9.5 in the back and try and run a 295/40-18. Both tires are exceeding the recommended rim width by .5" which might give them (equally) a little tire bulge

Also if it came down to it, I have an aircraft machinist at work. I would probably have him turn down my hubs ~.15" if need be.

[grimmey71]

How wide do you need?  9.5 in rim can accept 275  series and 295 series tire: depending on tire.  I am relocating my leafs 1in, and wanted to try to stuff a 295 tire in the rear, and keep the fronts at 255.  I see some people get 275 in front, but I wonder if that is too wide for steering feel.  I know there can be issues with rubs at that size too.  Wouldnt these TSWs seem to fit the bill just right?

I was hoping to Squeezee in 335/30/18's on the rear which I would need at least 12inches. I am running an alterkation front so I don't think I can go 275 wide on the front though

[dodj]

I was hoping to Squeezee in 335/30/18's on the rear which I would need at least 12inches. I am running an alterkation front so I don't think I can go 275 wide on the front though

I think Go-Fish squeezed 335's under his 'cuda. Haven't seen him post lately though, may or may not be hanging around?

[grimmey71]

I think Go-Fish squeezed 335's under his 'cuda. Haven't seen him post lately though, may or may not be hanging around?

Thanks i try to find what he used. I know Jvike http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=72360.0 and a few others. From what understand its all about nailing the backspace. With that said if I have to buy $1500.00 a piece forgelines to do it, we'll its not gonna happen

[dodj]

If I remember right, go-fish used a custom wheel.

[jordan]

Good to know!

Yeah, I've seen those AMR's. They look nice, but have way too much BS. I also want something with a lip, not flush mount. So far the TSW's seem to fit the bill. I would run 18x8 up front and try and run a 255/40-18 and the 18x9.5 in the back and try and run a 295/40-18. Both tires are exceeding the recommended rim width by .5" which might give them (equally) a little tire bulge

Also if it came down to it, I have an aircraft machinist at work. I would probably have him turn down my hubs ~.15" if need be.

This is what I am thinking of doing using TSW Snettertons.  They have a lip.  I am relocating my rear leaf 1".  Does that make the 6" backspace work, or am I thinking this all wrong?

[dodj]

For the 6 5/8" b-space I needed the 1.5" leaf relocation.

[72440Cuda]

This is what I am thinking of doing using TSW Snettertons.  They have a lip.  I am relocating my rear leaf 1".  Does that make the 6" backspace work, or am I thinking this all wrong?

With a 1" relocation, 6" backspace will work*.

I did a Mopar Performance 3/4" spring relocation and I have a 15x10 rim with 6 1/2" BS, BUT I'm also running a 3/8" spacer. This is equivalent to ~6 1/8" BS. It is very tight running 295/50-15's BFG T/A's. I can't fit a finger between the tire bulge and the closest part of the leaf spring. Since I'm running white walls on the inside, when I corner hard, the white letters are getting "shaved". But with the extra 1/4" of relocation and -1/8" of BS, it would be darn near perfect.

*Denotes: not a guarantee because some guy on the internet said so. It works for me, your result may vary