the only thing that i dont understand, when someone talks about new mopar muscle, its ok, oh, there fast , they will keep up with an 440 -6 or it will beat a hemi, but when a brand X modle pops up, oh there slow, there junk, my stock 440 wiil kill a zo6 vette, U really got to thank mercedes benz, there is quite a bit of MB technolagy into mopars, so its not mopar anymore, I think the new mopar musle is ugly and overpriced, and the hemi thing is gettin out of hand, I rather stick with old mopar any day, but i gotta say, i love there ram trucks!!!!