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Squirter Survey
« on: April 23, 2013 - 10:24:45 PM »
For you guys with an 850 Holley DP, what size squirters (accelerator pump nozzles) are you running on
the prim and sec side? Just wanna see what the ballpark is.  I've upped mine to 41, but my cams may need
changing as well.  When they were down around 31 to 35, I just didn't blast off the line like I wanted.

Thanks
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013 - 01:12:53 AM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013 - 12:22:08 AM »
For you guys with an 850 Holley DP, what size squirters (accelerator pump nozzles) are you running on
the prim and sec side? Just wanna see what the ballpark is.  I've upped mine to 41, but my cams may need
changing as well.

82 front main
84 rear

34 front squirter
32 rear


4.5 power valve


what are details of your engine build and possible tuning probs are you having?

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013 - 01:14:55 AM »
82 front main
84 rear

34 front squirter
32 rear


4.5 power valve


what are details of your engine build and possible tuning probs are you having?

496, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear, 254/258 at .050 .625 lift
Just seemed sluggish off the line
Going to 41s seemed to help.
thanks
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013 - 02:35:38 AM »
check out whats in my local paper


http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/3761577379.html
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013 - 07:43:06 AM »
41 is the upper range for me , rarely have I used squirters over 40
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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013 - 08:04:35 AM »
OK, once I get more aggressive cams in, I may try 35s!
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013 - 06:50:44 PM »
On my Proform 850 DP, I have 78 primary jets, and 86 secondaries. This came like this, so by looking at my spark plugs, I saw no reason to tinker. It ran great until they started putting Ethanol in our gas.   :stomp:

I have since had to go to a .35 squirter back and front. I also had to change the front cam from pink to blue to get rid of my off idle stumble.   

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013 - 10:10:24 PM »
A bigger cam delivering more volume of fuel will not change a instant stumble , only the squirter will change that , a larger cam will deliver fuel longer

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013 - 10:35:52 PM »
Apparently Holley says to go to 50cc pumps, if your squirter is above 40.  Guess thats
because with more aggressive accel pump cams, you could run out of gas with a 30cc pump.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2013 - 06:34:35 AM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2013 - 10:37:42 PM »
On my Proform 850 DP, I have 78 primary jets, and 86 secondaries. This came like this, so by looking at my spark plugs, I saw no reason to tinker. It ran great until they started putting Ethanol in our gas.   :stomp:

I have since had to go to a .35 squirter back and front. I also had to change the front cam from pink to blue to get rid of my off idle stumble.

Well what do you know! After changing jets every day for two weeks, since I got my AFR indicator, my 850 settled
on 78 primaries, and 86 secondaries. I shoulda just asked you!
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013 - 06:41:50 AM »
Is there any kinda rule or way to decide if the secondary cam should be more or less aggressive than
the primary cam.  For primary cam, coming off the line is a good way to gauge, but not sure how
to gauge what secondary cam is necessary?
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013 - 01:46:10 PM »
less is often more as youalready have airflow start with the saem size front & rear , go smaller on the rear if there is no stuble keep going smaller

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013 - 08:40:03 PM »
wow, using blue cam, and 35 squirters, gave a smoother, stronger, and quicker acceleration!
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013 - 09:13:03 PM »
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Re: Squirter Survey
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2013 - 06:29:26 AM »
is there supposed to be a small metal gasket above and below the squirter?
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000