Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?

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Offline brads70

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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2014 - 07:49:10 AM »
I'm liking this a lot. I want to do this too but it will be shorter because I have a steep driveway

Thanks! I forgot to mention I also purposely left the spoiler mounts/supports shorter so I could cut an inch off  the spoiler if I needed to. Trying my best to think/plan ahead.  :grinyes:
I'm somewhat glad I have a "nothing" slant 6 car. I most likely wouldn't do this with a numbers/collectable car.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2014 - 07:52:06 AM by brads70 »
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2014 - 12:52:43 PM »

Looking good brad, I especially like the tooling.

I guess it depends how much you want it to hang down or at least not hit big potholes.

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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2014 - 02:18:25 PM »
That Flipper door (where the cat is exiting) is the idea of what I've been toying with... and the outer edges could overhang the solid mount side sections by about an inch each side.   The ride height of the car, as well as considering the OD of tires, will have an effect on how low the front spoiler(s) are to the ground.   Another idea is to attach rubber edging (such as from drywall-to-floor flexible molding.. hardware store item...) to the bottom of the spolier... and it would be flexinle and more-so replacable if/when ever needed from hitting the ground, etc.... lots of road race cars use it already (comes in ~4"-6" or wider).    Without having some flexible bottom edigng, its just a matter of time, guaranteed, that the solid spolier will get damaged.. along with the valence panel and probable fenders.   Virtually all of the TransAm past race cars suffered that damage... many pics showing it on the web.... even more current active cars, too..   I strongly suggest to be careful with the "solid spoiler's" distance and... have the additional and desired lower extensions done with the flexable rubber edging.

Also... how about incorporating air ducts for brake cooling?   I've been considering adding them into my factory plastic front pair of spoilers... the typical shop/floor vacuum ends will work... see from Sears, etc... 1-7/8" or 2-1/2" diameters... and the hi-temp brake cooling hoses are  avlbl from race shops, as are ducting.

PS:  Beef up the front TBs to be stiffer so to further prevent front-end diving (and lifting)... especially having your car with the BB engine... you'll want avoid diving into the pavement, etc, as much as possible (the factory TranAms pro race cars (Posey, Gurney) all had beefier TBs like ~1.4 diamater... so...  consider installing up to 1.24 (like mine are and I love them!).... our factory hex size is 1.25"... Firm Feel can make you the 1.24 TBs.
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2014 - 07:04:29 PM »
My son has to do a lot of long-distant high speed driving in Australia.  He installed this spoiler, to help handling I guess.  I don't like it.
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2014 - 07:08:58 PM »
I bought the dimple dies here...
http://www.tmrcustoms.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=226&zenid=64ae3f0641f13ae40406275073655015
They work great, nice quality product. Looks good and adds strength !
Felt great to support a local business instead of sending money to China!  :grinyes:


Nice tools!  I just picked up my first sheet metal brake to make some brackets and stuff.  Those braces/brakets look awesome!

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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2014 - 07:44:04 PM »
Nice tools!  I just picked up my first sheet metal brake to make some brackets and stuff.  Those braces/brakets look awesome!


Nice! I built a sheet metal brake ( 2 of them actually) Worked ok but I ran out of room in the garage and sold them both. They is a really nice box/pan brake around here for sale that I'd love to have but I still don't have the room!  :lol:  That and it's $900
I bought these instead. a 3" and a 6" version. They worked great!
http://www.wisstool.com/product/dsp_product_detail.cfm?hier=692&pf=335&upc=037103240026

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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2014 - 09:05:41 PM »
Nice! I built a sheet metal brake ( 2 of them actually) Worked ok but I ran out of room in the garage and sold them both. They is a really nice box/pan brake around here for sale that I'd love to have but I still don't have the room!  :lol:  That and it's $900
I bought these instead. a 3" and a 6" version. They worked great!
http://www.wisstool.com/product/dsp_product_detail.cfm?hier=692&pf=335&upc=037103240026

At $900 that must be a much more serious brake than what I bought :)  I just picked up a bench top (or you can mount it in a vice) one like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOODWARD-FAB-sheet-metal-bending-brake-24-bench-or-vise-mount-16-gauge-NEW-/350961535982?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item51b6f00bee&vxp=mtr

Again for little brackets and stuff it's great.  Of course now I have a whole bunch of scrap pieces with odd bends in them from practicing :)  I really wish I had it when I bent up the brackets for my charger's headlight actuators.  I just used a vice, brute force and a hammer when needed, but the bends are nowhere near as clean as what the brake does.

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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2014 - 09:59:52 PM »
At $900 that must be a much more serious brake than what I bought :)  I just picked up a bench top (or you can mount it in a vice) one like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOODWARD-FAB-sheet-metal-bending-brake-24-bench-or-vise-mount-16-gauge-NEW-/350961535982?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item51b6f00bee&vxp=mtr

Again for little brackets and stuff it's great.  Of course now I have a whole bunch of scrap pieces with odd bends in them from practicing :)  I really wish I had it when I bent up the brackets for my charger's headlight actuators.  I just used a vice, brute force and a hammer when needed, but the bends are nowhere near as clean as what the brake does.


Here is the box/pan brake I was looking at, just don't have the room.
http://www.busybeetools.com/products/BOX-AND-PAN-BRAKE-48IN.-16-GAUGE.html
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2014 - 10:03:41 AM »
Slow progress.... but I'm finished , just have to 600 paper it all , rivet it all together, then spray a clear coating on it.
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2014 - 11:12:21 AM »
Looks real nice Brad. Can't wait to see it on the car. See what happens when you run 1 autocross for fun.  :poopoke:   :roflsmiley:
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2014 - 12:20:11 PM »
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I can't wait to see this in place.


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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2014 - 07:42:41 PM »
Looks real nice Brad. Can't wait to see it on the car. See what happens when you run 1 autocross for fun.  :poopoke:   :roflsmiley:
Thanks guys, I try to resist but racing has always been in my blood. (25 years involved with circle track) . I like car shows but just sitting there in a lawn chair gets old quick for me. Autocross seems like a great compromise for me!  Not real big in my neck of the woods yet but I'll see if I can coax some people locally to get involved. Some are retired circle track racers too. I'm sure a few comments like   " I never figured you for a show poodle but I guess driving a Chevy/Ford what choice do you have" should get the old competitive juices flowing again!  :naughty:  :aarg: :roflsmiley:
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2014 - 10:59:24 PM »
No, thank you. I think your car is a honey just the way it is. Just my  :2cents:

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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2014 - 04:35:19 PM »
Well I finally got my new rims yesterday, got them mounted this morning and started assembling some sheet metal. I'm loving the new look! Spoiler is perfect.  It will stick out about as far as the bumper. It's 7" off the ground at the lowest point (center) I think I'll be good ground clearance wise! :woohoo:







« Last Edit: April 25, 2014 - 04:38:36 PM by brads70 »
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Re: Should I add a Trans-am style spoiler?
« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2014 - 04:43:35 PM »
are you sure those front wheels are wide enough..?  :22yikes:   sweet rims Brad  :2thumbs:
I don`t think such a spoiler would be streetlegal here.... it could harm a pedestrian when you run one over  :icon16:   :netherlands:
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