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68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« on: May 18, 2013 - 07:33:41 PM »
Wow, the July PHR mag has an article on an awesome 68 Charger. The
vents on the hood are a must have!!
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013 - 10:50:27 AM »
Tried inter-googling it unsuccessfully

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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013 - 01:50:17 PM »
I saw this on the website.  Is it this one?  Looks almost like a molded in shaker?  Looks nice.

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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2013 - 02:46:33 PM »
No, that is not it, the 68 Charger gets the cover and looks close to Go Green for color...
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2013 - 03:35:16 PM »
Saw it today, looks awesome, built on a budget too
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013 - 09:21:49 AM »
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013 - 11:08:26 AM »
This I the only thing I could find, i read the article at te grocery store, built the car for like 25k if I remember correctly
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013 - 03:08:51 PM »
Its in the July issue of PHR, so probably not on their web site yet.

The hood is interesting. Its kind of like a Challenger R/T hood with the rise and two scoop look, but it has functional air extracters built into it. Not sure I like the little skull molded into teh elading edge as a hood ornament.

Yes, they are claiming its a $25k build, which I think is somewhat suspect. It certainly is possible in some cases, but I don't think this is one of them. In the article, they also claimed it was a typical mid-western rust bucket that needed all sorts of metal work, and when the metal was installed it was stretched and widened to create an altered body line without the need to tubs to hold all the wide rubber, so what I suspect they did is just publish it at material cost and didn't include all the  custom labor charges since it a "shop" vehicle. The rear quarters were widened 5" and the wheel openings raised 2.5". Thats a butt load of custom work to do and even if your shop rate is a low $75 an hour, it would be easy to put $3-5K into just those two mods alone.

By contrast, Hot Rod has an article on Ridetech's '33 Coupe and they (Ridetech) did factor in all the labor and R&D work that they put into it and they estimate to duplicate that car for a customer would run $305,000. I seriously doubt the Charger builders would sell a duplicate of that car to a customer in its as published condition for only $25,000.
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013 - 06:48:02 PM »
A bit off topic, a bit on. I saw that Hot Rod Shoot out - Can a kit car compete with a $190,000 Lambo. Most misleading piece of journalism I've seen in quite awhile. "Kit Car" means home built, cheap replica. THEY didn't tell ANYONE until the END of the ARTICLE that the "kit car" cost $#)%<))) or more accurately $ $305,00 MOST MISLEADING article of all time. I would rather have a true genuine Lambo and enough dough left over for 4 or 5 true muscle cars than some fiberglass POS with all kinds of add on that the average joe would never have, PLUS the kit car doesn't even have a real interior, it has a battery you can't even access, it has a roll bar in the way of everything, it has no AC or anything - it is an expensive show poodle that is about 10-15 times more than what most people expect a "kit car" to cost. This was just a waste of ink to advertise ride tech. I don't want to curse, but this whole excersize reminded me of that song by the group Everclear, "You Make Me Feel Like A Wh$re" WHAT was the projected audience for this article when they didn't admit until the end  that it cost over $300.00to beat a $190,00 Lambo? Man I'm glad I did not renew my subscription. Hot Rod has jumped the shark. After seeing the "$25,000" Charger makes me want to  :puke: and call them an effing liar all day long. ALL DAY LONG! NO WAY IN HE$$. Rant over. (but this kind of crap really pisses me off) I'm getting tired off this kind of "journalism".
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013 - 09:59:43 AM »
But how do you really feel?

I'm not sure what was misleading about it. They stated it was a custom build. They said it was all one off and custom engineering. They said it was not for general consumption but was an exercise in "what if" for the owner of Ridetech.  Unfortunatly, if you dropped off any car at a shop and asked them to spend 3000+ hours working on it, the price tag would likely come out similar. That was the point I was trying to make. The Hot Rod article was all inclusive. IMO, I don't think the Charger article in PHR was.

FWIW, I have seen follow up posts from Brett Voekel on some web forums talking about it. He has reinforced the whole idea that this was his engineering wet dream. He turned his guys loose on it and is going to try to amortize some of the hours of work on that car by turning some of those pieces into products. He also stated that the basic Factory Five kit could certinaly be built and completed for $50-60k. I also think that the whole point of the Hot Rod article, given the rest of their demeanor, is that this is a Street Rod, that gets rode hard and put up wet, compared to all the other $100-200k Street Rod builds that have chrome plated everything and get polished with a cotton diaper after being pushed out of their insulated trailers. You also have to understand that Brett did not write a check for $300k just to build that car. He horse traded for a bunch of parts, used stuff lying around in the shop and in an R&D mindset, retained all the design aspects of the custom work. The $305,000 figure was thrown out there so anyone who wants to walk in to Ridetech and say build me exactly what you have, knows what they are getting into.

By contrast, if you walk into the muscle car resto shop that made that Charger and ask them to do yours exactly like it for $25k, somehow, I don't think they will.

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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013 - 11:18:40 PM »
You are, of course, right. At least they were honest. For awhile there, PHR was including price of build in average joe cars (according to the owners), and it seemed plausible and accurate. They aren't doing that anymore. It is crazy easy to rack up money even just in normal wear and tear items like battery, belts and hoses, plugs and wires and all fluids and filters and gaskets, tires, shocks etc. It was an eye opener, for sure. lol.
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013 - 03:12:35 PM »
just took a pic from the magazine with my phone
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013 - 07:58:07 PM »
Thanks for the pic, moparman!  :thumbsup:

I wonder if it's a fiberglass hood or metal?  :clueless:
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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013 - 04:15:07 PM »
 :working:  The hood is metal and it was made to look like the hood of the SRT Viper; I know the shop owner and his son and they do mind blowing work over there, they have several over the top projects they are working on like a 69 GTX that's going to be motivated by a Hennessey V-10 with twin turbos in the quarter panels. Their web site has there projects on it. The 25G's is not including the man hours put into the Charger. Steve and Brandon are great people and awsome to work with. :ylsuper:

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Re: 68 Charger in new PHR magazine
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013 - 04:27:53 PM »
 :working:  Forgot to include their website:  paintshop101.com  soon to change to muscle rod shop.