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Offline Chlngrcrzy

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What style of water pump housing on a 440
« on: May 29, 2013 - 10:56:22 PM »
I have yet to buy a water pump and a radiator for my rebuilt 440. Which style of pump housing should you use? Driver side top hose or passenger side top hose? I assume the lower hose is standard driver side?




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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013 - 11:00:20 PM »
the water pump housing determines the lower hose side , up to 72 it was left side lower after 72 it was right side lower , what matters is the top hose , it will cool best if it is diagonally opposite so with a lower left I would use an upper right side rad , the water pump is the same & you just need a different upper hose

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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013 - 12:07:27 AM »
I have yet to buy a water pump and a radiator for my rebuilt 440. Which style of pump housing should you use? Driver side top hose or passenger side top hose? I assume the lower hose is standard driver side?

as chryco said diagonally is best but the MOST important part is u use STOCK style waterpump housing,,,as in a stock housing or a mopar performance unit that does not restrict flow like alot of the aftermarket units does..U WILL have cooling problems if the passages r restricted...
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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013 - 10:01:42 AM »
as chryco said diagonally is best but the MOST important part is u use STOCK style waterpump housing,,,as in a stock housing or a mopar performance unit that does not restrict flow like alot of the aftermarket units does..U WILL have cooling problems if the passages r restricted...

Besides the 440 Source housing that has been found at times with a small passage, which other after market pumps have the problem?

I like the Milodon high volume pumps, myself


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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013 - 10:52:11 AM »
The Mancini housings are far better

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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013 - 06:52:05 PM »

It was actually found that the 440 source housing wasn't the problem, it was the water pump that sucked.

You can find the thread on here and he shows the flow numbers.

Besides the 440 Source housing that has been found at times with a small passage, which other after market pumps have the problem?

I like the Milodon high volume pumps, myself
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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013 - 07:45:56 PM »
The Mancini housings are far better

If I installed a Mopar aluminum housing 12 years ago, is the Mancini going to be
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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013 - 10:49:05 PM »
It was actually found that the 440 source housing wasn't the problem, it was the water pump that sucked.

You can find the thread on here and he shows the flow numbers.

I had the same experience. I'm using a passenger side outlet 440 source housing and a Milodon pump and so far it's been great. It did overheat ( well climbed to 230) but that was once while sitting at a border crossing for 1 1/2 hours in just over 100F with no breeze at all. Just had to dump water bottles on the rad every 10 minutes after the first hour just sitting there running.
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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2013 - 12:18:35 AM »
Mancini & Mopar are great , 440 source are problematic

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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013 - 01:02:16 AM »
I'd avoid the electric pumps. Got a 40 gpm Mizeire that just didn't cut it, so
went back to mechanical. $100 plus shipping for the Mizeire!
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Re: What style of water pump housing on a 440
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013 - 02:44:30 PM »
Guys, I thank you. Information as usual being valuable.