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Re: Removed my cluster - REDLINE already done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2013 - 05:03:17 PM »
I'm tossing around having my gauges done by redline or going custom gauges.  If you don't mind me asking,  how much did it set you back?

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For those who might be considering Redline, they do great work and are a great buch of guys.

Here's my breakdown:

** Speedometer "repair" = $180.  This is a recommendation from Redline.  I explained to them that the speedo looks like it's brand new.  They said it's best to take it apart, inspect, re-lube and calibrate.

** Tach Conversion to solid state = $200.  They don't use RTE or PDD boards, or MSD adapters.  They have their own conversion approach.  I'd rather have it done by professionals, rather than trying to do it myself.  I have read where others have done this fairly easily using the above mentioned conversion options, but I feel it's best to leave this to those who have done it for years.

** Solid State Voltage Limiter = $43.

** Calibrate: Fuel, Oil, Temp Gauges = $40 (1/2 hour labor).

** Quartz Clock Conversion = $80 (1 hour labor).  They used the conversion kit I bought several years ago (same as the one they use), and just charged me labor for install.

** Amp to Volt Meter Conversion = $160.  This should be done considering the power hungry non-stock add-ons (i.e. audio system, etc.).  Besides, it's just simply a safer alternative.

** Assembly and Detail = $80 (1 hour labor).  This includes polishing the clear plastic gauge/instrument cluster lens.

** All needles were repainted (except for the Tach, as it was a fully restored original instrument that I bought a few years ago)

** I ended up having to buy a housing from them because the previous owner had enlarged the Tach hole for an Autometer Tach (I didn't even notice this when I took the Autometer Tach out), and the original tach would't work in the enlarged hole.  Redline had some extras, and the cost was VERY reasonable.  They bead blast the housings and the backside of the instruments to look new.

Total cost out the door = $820.00  (However, my rates were quoted to me at the end of Feb, before they had to increase pricing by 10% due to typical factors.  So add an additional $80.00 for today's rates)

For more info on my Rallye cluster and switch panel restoration, see the following post that I started at the beginning of March.  I'll be adding a bit more after I do the new woodgrain faceplate on the cluster bezel.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=91034
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Re: Removed my cluster - REDLINE already done/ ITS HERE!
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2013 - 12:38:57 AM »
 I got the cluster back in tonite!

I had to reinstall my speedo / tach  as they were restored a few years back. I only used the finest Canadian imported speedo grommets.  These are a crucial step often overlooked! Do not be fooled by imitations.  THANKS BRAD!  :worshippy +Things went pretty smoothly with the exception of the cable for the clock set. I neglected to test fit the cover on the cluster before the install. I had to make a special tool to hold it to the side to get the adjuster (Ferrell??) seated on it.  I will loan this tool to any member in need.  ::)  No time to fire her up for a test yet, but I didn't have any screws left over!   :woo:  They also sent a little diagram of how to read the gauge.
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Re: Removed my cluster - REDLINE already done/ ITS HERE!
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2013 - 12:40:40 AM »
One afterthought.... tape your column up well so you don't mega scratch it like I did.   :grinyes:
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster back in the dash!
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2013 - 08:02:10 AM »
Looks great!  :clapping: :2thumbs:


Hey no problem with the grommets, glad to help when I can.... I figure this just gives me license to harass you more about  my....errr... your GTX! :thinkerg:

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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster back in the dash!
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2013 - 10:26:11 AM »
Its all good brother  :thumbsup:
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster back in the dash!
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2013 - 11:34:23 PM »
Well I had her out this weekend. Met up w MOPAR FANATIC  Saturday nite, And went down to the FOX LAKE show today.  :thumbsup:
And of Corse there's a few things I need to address.... ever notice how one thing leads to the next...   :eek7:

First off my fuel gauge finally reads all the way full. Haven't seen that till I pulled the 5/16 and went with the 3/8.  Oil Press still reads 80 psi most of the time... once good and hot aybe down to 65 at idle. Is my OP that's good... really ?  :clueless: 

Secondly my volt gauge (amp converted) is erratic as all get out. Worst at idle, solid at highway speeds. I think I saw a post on that someplace....  :dunno:       

Third........ THE NEW CLOCK DONT WORK.   :swear:  Granted, I did not check the hot lead for "hot" before reassembly.... but everything else in the cluster had power. There are no blown fuses/suspicious looking wiring/bad grounds that I am aware of.  Lets pull the dash apart again....  yay!   :faint:
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster -the good-the bad-the ugly........... :(
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2013 - 08:54:49 AM »
That's a bummer! If it's any consolation I've had my speedo out 2X and it's still not right either.
Brad
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster back in the dash!
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2013 - 11:51:17 AM »
Third........ THE NEW CLOCK DONT WORK.   :swear:  Granted, I did not check the hot lead for "hot" before reassembly.... but everything else in the cluster had power.
Clock has it's own power lead seperate from the gauges.  :2cents:
Maybe it got knocked off when you were mounting the gauge panel?
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster back in the dash!
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2013 - 06:12:51 PM »
Clock has it's own power lead seperate from the gauges.  :2cents:
Maybe it got knocked off when you were mounting the gauge panel?
I'm hoping thats the case......... stay tuned............
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster -the good-the bad-the ugly........... :(
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2013 - 10:52:51 PM »
I went out and took the dash apart AGAIN.  I slowly pulled out the cluster to take a pic...... ALL wiring attached. Put a test light to the clock lead and grounded it..... LIGHT!!!!
Now correct me if I'm wrong, I'm guessing the clock grounds through the housing???? I attempted to run the clock off the battery.......... grounding the clock housing itself and then the entire cluster housing.............. NOTHING..........  :villagers:  :banghead:  :stomp:  :pullinghair:  :swear:  hello...??? Shannon........... or am I wrong... ??  :dunno:
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster - back to REDLINE... or....:( ????
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2013 - 11:21:14 PM »
If you put 12vdc on the clock spade lug and connected the housing to ground and got nothing from the clock, unfortunately, your clock is broken.  :crying:
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster - back to REDLINE... or....:( ????
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2013 - 11:33:39 PM »
If you put 12vdc on the clock spade lug and connected the housing to ground and got nothing from the clock, unfortunately, your clock is broken.  :crying:

Scott, that's exactly where I though I was going...............  :crying:    Now lets ship it back to CALIFORNIA!!!  :puke:
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster - back to REDLINE... or....:( ????
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2013 - 11:44:26 PM »
I've been using a 12V 7a/h SLA for testing. Worth a try before sending it back.
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Re: Removed my cluster - Cluster back in the dash!
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013 - 12:09:21 PM »
Well I had her out this weekend. Met up w MOPAR FANATIC  Saturday nite, And went down to the FOX LAKE show today.  :thumbsup:
And of Corse there's a few things I need to address.... ever notice how one thing leads to the next...   :eek7:

First off my fuel gauge finally reads all the way full. Haven't seen that till I pulled the 5/16 and went with the 3/8.  Oil Press still reads 80 psi most of the time... once good and hot aybe down to 65 at idle. Is my OP that's good... really ?  :clueless: 

Secondly my volt gauge (amp converted) is erratic as all get out. Worst at idle, solid at highway speeds. I think I saw a post on that someplace....  :dunno:       

Third........ THE NEW CLOCK DONT WORK.   :swear:  Granted, I did not check the hot lead for "hot" before reassembly.... but everything else in the cluster had power. There are no blown fuses/suspicious looking wiring/bad grounds that I am aware of.  Lets pull the dash apart again....  yay!   :faint:

Sorry to hear about your situation.  I'm interested in hearing about what Redline does and/or says about this.  I was fortunate to be able to pick up my cluster in person, and have Shannon perform a bench test on all instruments/gauges (while I watched).  Everything worked perfectly "on-the-bench".  I only hope that the same holds true when it's installed and running on the vehicle's electrical system.  It will be several months before I get to that point.
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