NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2013 - 09:07:37 AM »
I think this data base is a great idea and really appreciate all the efforts and the benefits to our forum but I was wondering at what post count can they see it?  What did you have in mind?  :clueless:

Just curious, why limit it to those with a certain level of post count?  :clueless:  Just wondering that's all...

I guess I'm thinking that yes it would be good for members of the forum to see it but it would be great benefit for all members to see it, not just those with a certain post count.  If a new person joins then it could benefit them as well.  :dunno:  Just wondering...

It doesn't need to be very high at all. Just enough to keep someone from registering and going straight into the database. I would think 25-50 posts would be enough to get the new members integrated into the scheme of things. The minimum post requirement would encourage new members to be engaged in the community. After meeting the post requirement, they could then access the database.  0.02....
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2013 - 09:57:05 AM »
I started this thread not so much to become a bashing session but for a couple of different reasons.  I was a bit surprised in hearing that the numbers were diminishing over there and wanted to see if anyone else had heard similar stories.   

I would ask if we see the same thing here with active membership. All forums tend to go through cycles of up and down. For the longest time, and probably still now, Moparts was the single biggest mopar specific entity on the web. Old timers may remember heminet.com and a few others that rivaled moparts at one time, but they have all withered and died. Even moparstyle.com, which was a spin off from a similar moparts disagreement, and while it is still around, it too has fallen victom to the cult of personality and traffic tends to be slower and run in waves. Whether you agree with the membership, moderators, policies, or what have you, there does need to be a fairly central location that new comers can go to get their feet wet before venturing out into more specific sites. moparts serves that purpose and as others have pointed out, the sheer volume it has makes it a primary spot for parts and cars sales, good bad or indifferent.

Not only that, but sometimes you have to kiss a few toads before you can really figure out good from bad.

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2013 - 11:24:50 AM »
What I see that is SO different on this forum is that the members here are more than just a nickname & an entity in cyberspace. We are friends and family. We meet face-to-face at Carlisle every year; share stories & tell lies!  :smilielol: We get to know each other, we care about each other. Take up collections for those we find to be in need. The best example would be Don's car "Cuda Guy" that was restored by members here (while Don was deployed in Iraq & knew nothing about the project) and presented to him at Carlisle. You got a car you want to buy and need someone to look at it? Yup, we'll do that too if it's near our home. I've been on here for years and never encountered a group of folks that are so much about each other. It's like an extended family!! For those of you that are not familiar with the "Cuda Guy story" see the link below of the presentation at Carlisle!! That my friends is what CC.com is all about!!  :bigsmile:

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2013 - 11:43:45 AM »
I was wondering at what post count can they see it?  What did you have in mind?  :clueless:

Just curious,
Don't worry Super Blue, with over 11000, they'll probably let you have a peek. A quick one.  :bigsmile:
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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2013 - 04:48:22 PM »
Don't worry Super Blue, with over 11000, they'll probably let you have a peek. A quick one.  :bigsmile:

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2013 - 07:00:29 PM »
YA ,Phil,you souldn't have a problem................  :smilielol:
Ya, I guess that be ok....... 


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I must say I've seen more of an extended family element on C-C than ANY other forum. Lots of freinds here even tho its often people you never see face to face. Most here have helped another here with out ever meeting each other. Good tech info and support from other members on more than just automotive issues.  :2thumbs:

I like that 50 post count ide, I think thats fair.  :grinyes:
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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2013 - 08:12:05 PM »
 Thanks ECS :)
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2013 - 08:40:51 PM »
Online database approved by Chrysler (so it doesn't get pulled back down) would be terrific!  As far as forums go, CC.com is my clear favorite and by a wide margin.
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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2013 - 08:52:36 PM »
What I see that is SO different on this forum is that the members here are more than just a nickname & an entity in cyberspace. We are friends and family. We meet face-to-face at Carlisle every year; share stories & tell lies!  :smilielol: We get to know each other, we care about each other. Take up collections for those we find to be in need. The best example would be Don's car "Cuda Guy" that was restored by members here (while Don was deployed in Iraq & knew nothing about the project) and presented to him at Carlisle. You got a car you want to buy and need someone to look at it? Yup, we'll do that too if it's near our home. I've been on here for years and never encountered a group of folks that are so much about each other. It's like an extended family!! For those of you that are not familiar with the "Cuda Guy story" see the link below of the presentation at Carlisle!! That my friends is what CC.com is all about!!  :bigsmile:


                                                                         


Well said!  :cheers:
While I may never get to Carlisle or meet any of you face to face (but it would be nice if I did)  I feel like a part of the family here and have been helped out countless times with my E body issues! I have been to Moparts but I found the site not entirely user friendly, it sort of just feels like you are reading the classifieds over there, here we have members who actually care about each other... I like that!

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2013 - 09:00:42 PM »
Don't worry Super Blue, with over 11000, they'll probably let you have a peek. A quick one.  :bigsmile:

 :roflsmiley:  :smilielol:  You guys are too much!  :worshippy  :thumbsup:

It doesn't need to be very high at all. Just enough to keep someone from registering and going straight into the database. I would think 25-50 posts would be enough to get the new members integrated into the scheme of things. The minimum post requirement would encourage new members to be engaged in the community. After meeting the post requirement, they could then access the database.  0.02....

Makes sense, Ken.  Just wondering and your answer is perfect.   :thumbsup:
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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2013 - 10:33:43 PM »
Dave,

Great idea about the assembly manuals.  I do remember that F A X O N Auto Literature (typed out on purpose so they can't find it on here) had been licensed by Chrysler to reprint the manuals (at least that is what was printed on the book I got for my charger) so unless they let the license expire they might be the ones who would have the beef with it getting put up on here.  If not, I would say great idea!

Back on topic with what has happened with me over on Moparts...... I was there when I first got my charger in July of 2000 and had posted stuff in the (at the time) A12 Resto Forum.  Being a Resto Forum, I had posted generic questions pertaining to B body cars such as suspension, drive line, etc.  I was basically ridiculed because I had a "lowly Charger" and not an A12 car.  Some people were nice enough to give me the answers that I needed, others had comments which could have been done without.  When I stuck up for myself and mentioned that it could benefit more people than just myself since all K frames were the same color, suspension was all the same color, E brake parts, etc, again all B BODY STUFF! I was pretty much told to watch my attitude and then became a troll over there for the longest time lurking and just taking the info that I needed and essentially refused to post for my own good.  I had started posting again probably around maybe 2008 or so when I heard about Dave's Challenger being done which got me interested again and started sharing my experiences and information I have accumulated over the years.  I was even posting stuff on here and not posting stuff about our 70 Chally vert since this was a way better site (same for Dodgecharger.com, another great site!)  On here I was welcomed with open arms and everyone enjoyed and gave great critique on our cars to help me better them which is all that I wanted.  I openly admit that I do not know everything and urged everyone to help me pin point what was wrong with our cars to try and bring them back as close to factory stock as they could be.  This site as well as Dodge Charger.com was a huge help and for that I thank each and everyone here and considered it an honor to be able to help others with the knowledge I have gained.  Anyway,  back to the Moparts issue.  When I was commenting on Dave's car or some of the new products that his company was offering, posts would start to disappear, entire threads would get locked or deleted for no reason.  I was told by an admin I had met out at Carlisle that it was because I was referencing Dave or ECS and that the admins there had a huge problem with him for some reason.  He never specifically said the reason why but I kind of got that it was because Dave stuck up for himself and they didn't like it or if his info was correct, he stuck by it and didn't cave in.  To me, if you stick up for yourself, thats just defending one's honor in my opinion.  You can't argue facts!  Ok, maybe some people can but if you go against the facts, you will always lose!

Either way, I am very thankful for this site and thank the Admin's here for maintaining such a great site.  My family and I have made a great bunch of friends and gotten together with a bunch of people at the Cuda-Challenger tent and I even kicked in my own thing whenever I was at Carlisle with my cars..... my snow cone maker with an average of 16 different flavored syrups.  (sorry guys and gals, we'll only be able to make it for just the Saturday this year as we are looking for parts for our newest vehicle.... the 69 GTX convert)

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2013 - 11:07:24 PM »
It's nice to see a thread all about bashing another forum. 

And I don't know who has been lying to you, but Moparts traffic has been increasing in size for the past 2 years, not decreasing.  I keep track of the numbers on all major Mopar boards for advertising.  There is no larger Mopar board on the net with as many active members.

I've been a member of Moparts since before it was popular.  I migrated when the Dallas Board when that imploded.  With so many people, not everyone will agree with you.  But they don't have too.  It's only when you go off the deep end that things go bad. 

This thread just makes people and this forum look bad.  If you want to start something about a database, that's cool and good luck.

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2013 - 12:08:15 AM »
You want to hear a good one Brian?  About two months after I was banned, Tom Frysinger sent me an email asking if I would pay him $600 for site Sponsorship.  I responded by asking him if he knew that they had banned me (again) for no reason other than defending myself against unsubstantiated criticism.  They continuously over looked the insults towards me but pounced on any RESPONSE I gave to the rude and instigating remarks. 

About a year later (when I became very ill) Galen Govier went on moparts and said that my Company was reproducing VIN products illegally.  My Wife and Corporate Attorney (who is a personal Friend and assistant to the Missouri State Prosecutor) went after the site for defamation of character.  I don't remember much of the ordeal because I basically lost a complete month of my Life and don't remember the details.  My Wife and Attorney did tell me that moparts was more than willing to remove the lies and post a retraction.  Cindy is a pit bull when it comes to ECS!  The Company is in her name and as I am typing this, she just threaded to "fire me". :smilielol:


Maybe "DEVIL" can explain what it is that I ever did to him?!  He was one of the individuals who continuously had to argue, prove the contrary or disparage anything I contributed on that site.  I think the real problem is that the "big shots" of the Industry didn't appreciate a newbie like me taking away from their authoritative status in the Restoration World.  Please accept my sincere apology for not asking permission or bowing down to kiss the ring of those who feel they Govern and own the Mopar Hobby.  :worshippy

Oye, here we go again.  First of all, I had nothing to do with you being banned from Moparts.  You did that on your own.  I was never involved with that whole cluster frak or anything.  You have a problem with them, deal with it. 

I do appreciate how you just happened to work in to your post that you have a corporate attorney that just happens to be a personal friend and assistant to the Missouri Prosecutor.

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2013 - 01:55:10 AM »
Everything aside from what this post has become. This site is great and the people are more than happy to answer all my stupid questions I have about restoring my cuda. I'm new to the mopar world , I was I to Pontiac, gmc trucks and 4x4s before. I understand that the site expanding is good for the site but on the other hand I like know who responds to my posts. I have seen many small sites blow up and not for the better. With expand g there will be problems but there will be good times too.

It CC does expand and you guys and gals want to do a minimum post count to access information you might want to also do a time count also, I have seen people flood threads to get there post count up. Other 4x4 sites had a post count to see forsale sections and people just flooded the site

I have no doute that this site will be big one day, and a way to keep people together. We might want to think about a members section where people have to be voted in by the members. I member has to put you up and the vote stays open for a week and is voted in.

I know this is off the topic about another site but maybe we should just focus on making this one better instead of talking about another one. Yes I am on it but I only am on it to post my search for my motor and build sheet as this site to me doesn't seem like it gets the traffic of moparts, I'm surprised to hear its on the decline, but I guess those numbers are based on who you ask

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Re: NOT SO SURPRISING....WHAT HAPPENED moparts?
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2013 - 05:30:47 AM »
It's nice to see a thread all about bashing another forum. 

And I don't know who has been lying to you, but Moparts traffic has been increasing in size for the past 2 years, not decreasing.  I keep track of the numbers on all major Mopar boards for advertising.  There is no larger Mopar board on the net with as many active members.

I've been a member of Moparts since before it was popular.  I migrated when the Dallas Board when that imploded.  With so many people, not everyone will agree with you.  But they don't have too.  It's only when you go off the deep end that things go bad. 

This thread just makes people and this forum look bad.  If you want to start something about a database, that's cool and good luck.

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Hi Ryan (Devil),

I am not trying to bash any forum.  I am simply explaining  the facts..... basically what happened to me.  Honestly, I felt a little insulted by how Moparts treated my thread / replies.  I was never vulgar to anyone, my topics were typically general in question as to help a wide spread amount of peope, (not focused on one specific car).  The admin / mod that I talked to out at Carlisle was very nice and had looked at the stuff that I had posted and was also puzzled as to why it was removed / deleted since I try and talk to people like how I want to be treated.  He basically outright told me that it was nothing of my content that I had posted, but guilt by association or by referencing a certain person.  Well, you know what?  If people can praise or bash others on that site, then why the heck am I getting my stuff removed / deleted when it has to deal about one certain company.  To me, that seems a little biased, border line of harassment.

I had also posted about an experience I had (very negative one mind you) with Apple Hydrualics on the AACA forum.  That too was getting the thread removed and locked because they refused to be opened to "slander" law suits because of negative comments being made about peoples experience with companies.  Yet, they allow people to post good reviews about the same company I had complaints with.  Again, kinda one sided don't you think?  I have since stopped posting on there due to their selective enforcement as I guess it is ok to let someone get screwed if you have a bad experience with a company but is ok to let everyone know only the good things that they do.  Its funny how they removed the entire thread (good experience posts were only left up) when I had mentioned to get a lawyer due to the fact that I was being discrimnated against since the freedom of the press right was being refused.  Again, I was not bashing that company at all, just stating the facts with what transpired.  Everything could be backed up by either  written letter from Apple to me or phone conversations which started being taped due to the shady activity that they had started doing.  By the way, its pretty bad when you run up over $100 in shipping charges for a hold off valve to be rebuilt.  Something that took 4 times to get rebuilt once in the 4 times they had it going back and forth to them and not even have the part look factory fresh when I got it back.