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Offline cudabob496

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Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« on: June 26, 2013 - 06:57:56 AM »
On my 850 DP, if the idle adjust screws at each corner are open too far, so that it is making a rich idle
situation, will that affect richness up through the rpm range, or will the affect disappear once, say,
you get above 2000 rpm?

I told a Holley tech I had each screw open 1 and 1/2 turns, and he said it would be too rich, but
I did not ask him the above question.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013 - 08:05:49 AM »
Why 1 and 1/2 turns out? That will usually be too rich. I run mine about 1/2 - 3/4 out and adjust the fast idle up just a hair to expose a little more of the transfer slot. My car is running two 750 HP's on a cross ram and it idles great and has crisp throttle response off idle. 1 and 1/2 turns is just a baseline to get it running and then tune from there...   :2cents:
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Re: Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013 - 09:16:38 AM »
When I do initial engine break in runs I often cheat the jetting with the idle mix screws , once I get it to 2000 rpm I tweak the idle mix screws which often smooths out the engine , so if I have to turn out the idle mix the jetting must be small or the reverse .

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Re: Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013 - 04:42:35 PM »
ok, thanks. 1 and 1/2 turns is the Holley recommended starting point for the screws, before
you start adjusting them based on vacuum readings. I'll have to play with them some more!
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013 - 09:35:48 PM »
If you have low vacuum & have the idle speed turned up a fair amount it will help to drill a small hole in the throttle plates to increase airflow while keeping the plates closed down so the isle mix can be adjusted properly

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Re: Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013 - 09:47:30 PM »
Weird, I took all 4 idle screws to 3/4 open, would not idle. Just quit.
Took all 4 to 1 turn open, would not idle, quit.
Took all 4 to 1 and 1/4 open. Idles great, and on the road
my AFR went from around 11 to around 12.8, on up to about 3000 rpm.
whodda thunk some idle screws could be contributing to my overall AFR
up to about 3000 rpm.  AFR drops after 3000 rpm, due to secondaries opening
I assume.

Man, these AFR meters are a real help, if you want to know whats going on in
your carb/combustion chambers.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Question on Holley 4150 4-corner idle system
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013 - 11:57:20 PM »
or the power valve circuit