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Offline GCCUDA

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EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« on: June 26, 2013 - 10:20:08 AM »
 Hope some one can Help.
i am Presently putting a 6.1 in my 70 Cuda Grand Coupe. I have a small block Lakewood bell housing and the 18 spline 4 speed .  what flywheel to use (10.5" I know) any recommendations The automatic as I understand you need to use a spacer !
Has anyone one tried this combination   .  what are the issues
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Offline Travis72

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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2013 - 02:10:59 AM »
I'm no expert, but for a flywheel I would think this steel one from McLeod would work:

 464108  CHRYSLER 2002-2006 V8 348 ; HEMI, 8 Blt Crnk, 130T R/G, Patt: 4,6

They sell an aluminum one as well.

Then you need a clutch for the 18 spline.

Travis
72 Cuda

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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013 - 10:46:52 AM »
COOL  One to consider . clutch for sure . anyone know of the pressure plate that will work best in this car using the mcleod flywheel . I looking to find out which combination will work . and the issues
using this combination?

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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2013 - 12:15:31 AM »
According to the McLeod website, notes 4 & 6 state:

4.   10, 10.5, 10.95" B&B-DIAPHRAGM
6.   10, 10.5" LONG & 10" DIAPHRAGM

So any pressure plate that fits these criteria should work.  Is your 6.1L stock?  Are you planning on modifying it?  Your horsepower level should set the type of clutch that you get and from there match it up with a pressure plate.  I put the McLeod RST twin disk in mine.  Some folks like Centerforce clutches and some like factory style single disk clutches.

Travis
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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2013 - 11:17:12 AM »
sounds interesting.  I will have a look .
 Presently its a stock 6.1 . I am going to stroke it to a 426. My main concerns are making sure the clutch will fit on the flywheel . the clutch type is simply a choice of horse power. I know of the mopar flywheel as well
My other main concern is the fact that a spacer is needed on the automatic.
How this issue affects this combination is a concern .

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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013 - 01:15:08 AM »
If you're going to do a stroker 426 then you will be making an easy 500 - 550 hp.  So pick a clutch that can handle it.  I think the bolt pattern on the flywheel for the clutch is pretty universal.

I have a TKO-600 with a Quicktime bellhousing.  No spacer is needed.  One thing to be aware of is you do need to remove the stock 6.1 torque converter snout bushing if its installed.  See post #291 of my build thread for what I'm talking about, plus there is a picture of the flywheel.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=28465.0

Travis
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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013 - 10:00:39 AM »
Man NICE WORK !!!!  I will be reading more of your post for sure !! did you purchase the keiser kit?  . I have done some more measuring . my Lakewood smallblock bell is 7.5 deep . the shaft on the 833a is longer almost 8.25 aprox (I have to measure this properly still) . I will be looking at this bushing issue later today. I have heard that I may have to cut the input shaft on the trans??? any insite?
John
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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013 - 11:56:36 AM »
So ive been looking over your pics. I noticed the ride tech 4 link . How do you like it? . Whos dash are you using as well
John

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Re: EBODY 6.1 WITH 18 SPLINE 4 SPEED ISSUES !
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2014 - 08:43:46 AM »
Has anyone else tried this combo?