340 Challenvger Value

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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2005 - 07:43:01 AM »
Welcome and of course as usual, these guys and gals have guided you in the right direction, but in case you didn't understand.......DON'T SELL THE 340/727. It would be like intentionally seperating a baby from it's momma, lol.
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2005 - 08:53:52 AM »
I in fact prefer to use a replacement motor,pump it up and bag the original for the future value of the car.Its hards for me to say chunk the 440 since you are so far along but i would find another 340,build it and bag the original.I am sure you could find someone to swap/cash a 340 for the 440.Both my Barracuda and challenger have fresh replacements(of the same cubic inches as they came with)on engine stands waiting for the resto's.I am bagging both original numbers engines/trans for the future.Of course I'm a numbers guy and wouldnt want to put the kind of money into a car it takes these days to do a class resto if they werent numbers matching,even though the originals will be in the corner of my shop.
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2005 - 03:28:30 PM »
Thanks for all the comments. You all confirmed what I was thinking was the best thing, and keep the 340/727.

Just as a side note, the reason the 340 was put aside was that it was suffering from repeated blown head gaskets. In fact, it blew 4 head gaskets in different places, but all on the passenger side. The head were rebuilt once and had about 8/1000 taken off to true them up. When it was put back together the last time, after the head rebuild, the head bolts were replaced with head studs and quality non-retorque head gaskets. It ran for about 2000 miles before blowing the gasket the last time. It has been into the machine shop since and had about 4/1000 taken of the block to true it up as well. The 340 only needs to be bored out to 0.030 over and it could be rebuilt The original small block 727 needs to be rebuilt as well, but nothing major. It has a small leak from the front seal and the revrerse band is starting to slip.

We picked up the 440 and the matching 727 for $25 if we took the 76 New Yorker that it was in out of the field it was sitting in. The 440 has been through the machine shop and is in great shape. Does not need to have the cylinders bored, crank is in perfect shape and will still use standard size bearings, same for the rods. Amazing that the only machine work needed on the 440 setup was it needed a new valve job, so 2.14/1.81 valves were put in at no extra cost. The big block 727 seems to be in good shape with no binding, but I will probably have it rebuilt just to make sure. I would hate to have to pull it in a month or two because it gave out. Better safe than sorry I think. It looks like the only thing that I am missing to complete the conversion at this point is a set of headers or a way to attach the original dual exhaust to the 440 exhaust manifolds. Then, just the wiring additions needed to reach the 440 distributor. I will do it such that no wires will be cut and can easily converted back to the 340 if I or someone else get the urge to go original. I am just now waiting for some additional extra cash to complete the 440/727 rebuild and go out and do some rice burner hunting.

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Thanks eveyone for your thoughts. And now the original 340/727 will now find a comfortable place in the corner of my garage for a long time until someone gets the urge to rebuild it and put the car back to original.
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2005 - 03:30:35 PM »
Awesome stuff mate, you made the right decision IMO.  ;)


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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2005 - 04:53:51 PM »
Welcome 71_340! You made the right decision- 440 for fun, 340 for originality.

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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2005 - 07:33:38 PM »
Absolutly true what Rev said. Now the next question ya have to ask yourself is do you want to keep the paint on that you've got? Or do you want to put it back to it's original color?
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2005 - 11:56:01 PM »
Me personally, not going back to original color. I may eventually, if the originallity bug bits, put the bench style front seat back in. But, definately not the color. The original color was dark gold metalic. Which looks about like dog **** with gold flakes in it. Not appealing at all. Someone else would have to put it back to that I think. Not sure I could bring myself to spend thousands of dollars to paint a car that nasty of a color. But, you never know, maybe a plum crazy, or panther pink or sublime green might be in the future. Here are a few more pics of the car prior to the 340 engine leaving.
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2005 - 09:18:04 AM »
 :drool: :drool: :drool: Very nice!! By the way, make sure you moth ball that 340 prior to stashing it in the corner.  :thumbs:

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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2005 - 06:26:34 PM »
Wow. GY9 - Dark Gold Metallic with the V7B blue pin stripe? Very cool! It carries the V08 waiver code for a "non-reccomended combination" too, that has to be a rare color combination. I know that I have never seen one.  :beer:

For that alone I personally would vote to put it back to original, we may never see another one like it!  :wave:

I love odd color combinations.   :worship:

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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2005 - 09:46:21 PM »
I did some asking around, here is a shot of a 1971 Challenger with the V7X stripe. Now can you imagine this same stripe in blue on a GY9 car? Very rare I would think!  :beer:

Photo courtesy of Ken Bowser.

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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2005 - 12:20:11 AM »
71, that looks like a really nice car to start with!!! :grinyes:
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2005 - 08:36:55 PM »
Hey April and Rev, how bout you do your hair like that blonde in the car so that when we are in Carlisle, you can look like her in the photo? Do ya have any old 70's clothes?
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2005 - 09:20:46 PM »
 :laughup: TC, there's not enough hairspray in the world to make my hair do that!  And, after having two kids, hip-hugger bellbottoms are a definate no-no  :nono:
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2005 - 10:17:33 PM »
I took a closer look at the trim tag and, unfortunately, it is a V78 and not a V7b. V78 being paint stripe delete. But, I still cannot imagine too many Dark Gold Metallic Challengers, with a column shift auto, no center console, front bench seat can be all that common. And, by the way, I have not got the moth balls in with the motor yet, but it is liberally coated with oil. Luckily, I live in the desert part of Washington state, so not a lot of rain. My climate is more like Vegas, but about 10-15 degrees cooler. Still breaks 100 for at least a week or two during the summer. The rest being mid-90s and with almost no humidity. Thanks again for all the input.  :dogpile:
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Re: 340 Challenvger Value
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2005 - 10:41:39 PM »
There is one code on the trim tag I am not completely sure about. It is in the third row, H4X9. At one point I had decoded it to: H - High trim grade, 4 - High back split bench seat, X9 - black interior. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Not sure where exactly I found it originally, but I cannot find it again. Thanks.
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