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Offline ff6849

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high ambient temps and pinging
« on: August 12, 2013 - 12:28:37 PM »
Will outside air temp affect/cause pinging under heavy acceleration? 

I recently got the car running this January, it has been running quite well. But the other day while driving its pinging  under acceleration, it seemed worst when with the A/C on too. The outside temp was well over 100'  8) (welcomed  to the desert southwest, but I will be cursing all winter long  just trying to survive June-August).  Will the high ambient temps cause this situation, I am running premium fuel 91-92 octane.
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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013 - 02:28:07 PM »
yes, particularly if the coolant temp is way up there

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013 - 02:48:05 PM »
 :iagree:
using a cold air inlet to the carb can help reduce temps inside the engine .

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013 - 04:02:22 PM »
:iagree:
using a cold air inlet to the carb can help reduce temps inside the engine .

yep, forgot to specify that hot air, while less dense which makes the engine richer, is easier to ignite so a cool air system helps a lot

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013 - 04:07:12 PM »
what options are available for cold air systems for a 73 'Cuda
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915 heads (mild head work, stock bottom end 10/9:1 compression)
A518 2600-2800 Stall
4.10 rear gear
TTI headers with 3' exhaust with  X pipe 
comp XE274H cam
Hughes Roller Rockers
Holley Sniper EFI
Holley Street Dominator intake
MSD ignition

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013 - 06:31:54 PM »
Build you own , dryer tubing hood scoops opened , any airflow possible through the engine compartment helps

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013 - 06:44:50 PM »
Has anyone on here ever made the scoops on their e-body functional for that purpose? Seems like a cool project! I would love to see it

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013 - 08:30:27 PM »
this is the most effective way to get cold air  :roflsmiley:

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013 - 11:34:11 PM »
Sure Cardboard should be effective  :smilielol:
 The most efficient place is a front air dam AAR/TA style or the base of the windshield / Nascar style , using dams around the car helps as well creating a vacuum under the which helps both aerodynamically & pulling heat out of the engine compartment from below .

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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013 - 03:13:06 AM »
what options are available for cold air systems for a 73 'Cuda


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Re: high ambient temps and pinging
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013 - 03:19:38 AM »
if pinging, use high octane gas, dial back timing a few degrees, aluminum radiator
will keep engine cooler, lower thermostat.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000