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Offline LOWDOWN

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1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« on: September 11, 2013 - 04:18:31 PM »
A used car dealer had TWO 1970 Cuda Convertibles in stock in late '70. BOTH were Black with Blue interiors and White tops. I am told they were both Shaker Hood V-Code 6-BBL 4-Speed cars. One stayed local until it was pounded into the dirt. The other was "wholesaled" within days...or so the story goes.

1) Does anyone know if 2 of the 6-BBL Converts were this color combination?

2) Does the "wholesaled" one exist today?

BTW, both of these cars would be Canadian-origin cars.

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2013 - 12:26:47 PM »
The one I have seen was an Ontario, Canada car. It was restored by Aloha Motorcars back in the day.  They went bankrupt several years ago.  I saw the car at Spring Fling nearly 10 years ago, still sporting an Ontario plate on it.  Beautiful color combination. I have a 70 Gran Coupe hard top, TX9 with blue interior.

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013 - 10:34:48 AM »
Thank you. The used car dealer was in Ontario, way back when.

Is there a source for these cars, as to color combos built? A "registry" listing?

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013 - 10:45:29 AM »
Thank you. The used car dealer was in Ontario, way back when.

Is there a source for these cars, as to color combos built? A "registry" listing?

Drop Ola Nilsson, aka "Cudaized" on this board, a PM. Ola has been collecting E-body convertible info for years and if anybody knows it would be Ola.
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013 - 03:47:55 PM »
The one I have seen was an Ontario, Canada car. It was restored by Aloha Motorcars back in the day.  They went bankrupt several years ago.  I saw the car at Spring Fling nearly 10 years ago, still sporting an Ontario plate on it.  Beautiful color combination. I have a 70 Gran Coupe hard top, TX9 with blue interior.
It was featured in MCG shortly after it was restored, story going that it was found to be full of black widow spiders when it arrived at Aloha to be restored.  It is in a collection of mostly high end cudas, mostly convertibles, in Chicago.  The owner also owns 2 of the real '71 hemi cuda convertibles also including one of the ones that turned up in France!!  :worshippy

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2013 - 12:49:22 AM »
I know the car.
I have "test" driven it...... :)

I only know of one like this built for Canada specifications. It is possible that there were more built like that. Not all 1970 `cuda440-6 convertibles built for Canada specs are (publicly) known.
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1970 `cuda340 convertible 4-speed Rallye Red with Red interior
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013 - 12:48:22 PM »
The son (Andrew) of the owner of Aloha went on to start his own restoration business. Apex Motorsports in Grafton, Wisconsin.
If you need details on the one that Aloha restored he may recall.

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2013 - 12:58:29 PM »
That is an awesome sounding combination !

Are there any pics of the original/restored car through Aloha?
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013 - 03:38:31 PM »
I believe one of the 1970 hemicuda convertibles is also black with blue interior.

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013 - 03:56:11 PM »
I believe one of the 1970 hemicuda convertibles is also black with blue interior.


You are correct! Here it is at the MCACN show in Chicago a couple of years ago. It's a 4-speed car. Don't know anything about what options it has. Personally I think the color combo with that white top looks a bit unusual. Think it would have looked better with a black top. I'm just saying you know, not that I wouldn't want to own it :drool:

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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013 - 10:21:08 PM »
Black with Blue interior. Canada specification `cuda440-6 4 speed convertible.


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V3W   A33   C55   J45   M25   M31
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1970 `cuda340 convertible 4-speed Rallye Red with Red interior
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013 - 10:22:49 PM »
EN1
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J45   L31   M25   M88   N41   N42
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1970 `cuda340 convertible 4-speed Rallye Red with Red interior
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013 - 01:47:00 PM »
Well I'll be darned!

Thank you, sincerely, to all who contributed, and especially cudaized.

You see, the fact is I saw BOTH cars sitting side-by-each at Parkway Motor Sales in Kingston ON. And I have been called everything under the sun for this ["erroneous"] recollection! The original story relayed to me by their salesman at the time (just after '71 intro, late-September/early-October '70) was a small dealer had ordered ONE...and TWO were delivered...and NEITHER sold, so he dumped them after getting the year-end allowance. One was bought locally by a construction worker who, I recall, played football at my high school and was a bit of a "wildman". I recall seeing that car sitting in a falling-down two-car garage in the early '80s...TOAST, just like the garage. Beside it sat a Dark Ivy Green R-Code '69 CJ 428 Mach 1...in even worse shape! Daily drivers in the Kingston area were lucky to last 10 years, back then. And without the full power and availability of the Aftermarket that we enjoy today, going to a local dealer to order new parts (if then available) was a very expensive venture.

Another local case in point:

Earlier in 1970 (June iirc), I was sitting outside a local speed shop, Mr. Ignition, shootin' the breeze with a friend when we heard this engine/fan noise approaching. WOW! An In-Violet with White interior (no stripes) HemiCuda Hardtop rumbled by. First one we'd seen in the flesh on the street! Spectacular-looking Cuda; Rallye Wheels, Silver Shaker, and what turned out to be a 727-3.23-geared "driver". I worked part time at the local Sears store and this car was bought by the Ass't Cosmetics Dep't Manager and her husband, a prison guard. Daily driven 365 days a year, without oiling or "rust-proofing".

[An aside: one night at the prison, a con jumped the HemiCuda owner in the parking area outside the walls, and stole the keys and then the HemiCuda to make an escape. Car was found shortly after, some distance away, basically unhurt...but HOT!]

Fast forward to April 1st, 1978 (no foolin') and a classified in the local daily paper: For Sale, 1970 HemiCuda yadayada $1,000 or B.O. I'll bet it's the same one, thought I. Called, and sure enough it was. Raced over to their house. SHOCK...and DISMAY. I swear, that last winter, it had been used as a dog house for their Shepard! There wasn't a single item/panel/part/piece that didn't need rehabbing/replacing. It ran...barely, shooting ducks through the carbs, up to about 25 mph. Fender tags attached...barely. Original motor/trans/diff/hood/Shaker. Inside, the plastic rear seat surround panels were scraped and gouged, seats ripped and torn front and backs, console in disarray. An ambitious restoration.

Went to the local Mopar dealer, with a list: That came to almost $5K, just for the obvious parts needed. Rebuild ALL the mechanicals, including engine-trans, estimate $2.5K. Body and paint: new fenders/quarters/trim/grille etc. Interior COMPLETE. In Toronto, at that time, you could buy a local show winner for $10-12K, done and driveable. This one was gonna take more than that, which was beyond my budget. "Pass".

**A local mechanic bought it ($800?), did a rudimentary body job in primer, pulled the motor/trans, and sold the rolling shell, eventually, for $1,500 to someone from the Toronto area who just had to have it! Waited a few months, and phoned the new owner: "Guess what I just found? the number-match motor and trans! Needs rebuilding!"

What would you pay for the ONLY number-match-to-your-HemiCuda motor and trans?! Yup, LOTS!**

Now, a car matching this exact description, from Ft. McMurray Alberta (I believe) won the Good Guys Northwest Nationals "Best Muscle Car in Show" a few years ago ('09-10?). I wonder if it was the same car?

Another local construction worker custom-ordered a '70 Hemi Roadrunner Coupe, In-Violet/Black Buckets/White Vinyl roof, 4-speed Super Track Pack. Drove it for a few months, got laid off on the late-fall, and had it repo'd. Back at the same dealer, the car was advertised in January/71 (height of winter), with little mileage and unhurt, for $3333 (Canada, remember!). Sold to a local restauranteur who at least laid it up for the winters. It became available again, also in '78, like the Cuda above. Two local drag race brothers bought it...and took a cutting torch to the rear quarters so they could mount deeply-offset mags and 12.00X 15 SLICKS. Standard original motor/trans/Dana. It lasted about two races, when they summarily blew it up! Ended up being parted out, body scrapped...

My family doctor, Dr. Cheseborough, bought the local Dodge dealer's wife's demo, in the late spring of '69. She had acquired it as a low-mile Exec demo from Chrysler: one of four (?) '69 Dodge Daytona with the S/E Package, 440-727. Red with Black Leather...and NO a/c! He drove that car as a fairweather car, his son had it refinished a few years ago, and it sold at auction about '10 for something north of $125K, still needing some touches.

Hope I haven't bored y'all, or overstayed my welcome.

Again, many thanks for the 440+6 confirmations.

** See UPDATE, below
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013 - 04:07:49 PM »
Another local construction worker custom-ordered a '70 Hemi Roadrunner Coupe, In-Violet/Black Buckets/White Vinyl roof, 4-speed Super Track Pack. ......................... Ended up being parted out, body scrapped...


Not sure how true this part of the story is (if I read it correctly)

I almost bought this Road Runner around 2004....The current owner had it for sale along with an A12 Super Bee.
He had more than one party interested in the car so he wanted us to write our best offer down, he would accept the offers and the highest one would get the car. I wrote down $41K ...that's all I had....Never got the car.
VIN RM21R0A161538....Galen Govier has a partial BCS for the car. The car went Stateside for restoration as far as I know, but I've never seen it again. :dunno:


You need to contact Terry McCann for any stories regarding the Kingston area...He was a guard too !
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Re: 1970 Cuda V-Code Convertibles
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013 - 04:20:07 PM »
Yes, Terry worked @ Joyceville, the HemiCuda owner worked @ Collins Bay. Kingston had EIGHT separate prisons/farm camps at one time.

The same brothers did the same torch job on a locally-owned-new '67 Biscayne 427 2-dr.

If the 'Runner survived their "care", it must have been a mess. I had heard it was "parted out". It was still a very solid and decent-running/looking car when they 1st bought it in '78.