Author Topic: 1970 Challenger TA (Read 8385 times)

Cuda Cody · « **Reply #15 on:** October 11, 2013 - 07:52:41 PM »

I'm fairly sure this is an older resto too and I see a few things that make me think that. Take better (and more) photos and post them if you want me to help more.

Get close up photos of the top of the rear fender with the trunk open, the trunk area, the insides of the quarter panels, the black out area on the cowl, the black out area on the top of the front fender under the hood, and the area just in front of the radiator. Take good ones of the under side of the car, the interior and engine bay too.

I'm thinking closer to 28K. I think the color, auto and non numbers auto are going to be a be turn off to most.

Quote from: anlauto on October 11, 2013 - 03:45:30 PM

I would "check to confirm" that is actually original paint, I'm guessing it's an older restoration that somebody is convinced that it's original. Again, just my opinion based on the photos posted.

Even if 100% legit stock original, I still can't see it going for much more then $30K -$35K

challengerx · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2013 - 12:31:15 AM »

Is that car just outside Rochester NY. Looks like the one I spotted on c list. If so I live pretty close, and good luck.

RocFinder · « **Reply #17 on:** October 12, 2013 - 11:52:40 AM »

Quote from: hemiken on October 11, 2013 - 07:49:46 PM

I personally would rate this as a very high price car only because it is in a rare colour combination of Tan on Tan, and if you can clean it up and see what is missing or damaged it could come under the class of survivor car. The fact that it is Tan on Tan and a low number colour combo would increase its value in my opinion, not everyone is after a high impact colour these days, and a lot of people are more after rare and collectable, and i think this comes under both catagories of rare and collectable. You should jum all over that and document the crap out of it to cross reference it with everything, it is all in the details and you need to check everything, go as far as to check the back side of plastics to see if they have been colour dyed or not, Tan is a very very hard colour plastic to come by... Good luck and keep us posted, see if you can get more pictures to share too please.
Thanks, Kenny.

Hello everyone, one thing from this post that rang out was document the crap out of it! We'll guess what....didn't even think of doing this but I googled the VIN and this link will take you to something interesting about the car. Now how much you think it is worth? Wow what a find! http://www.autobidmaster.com/carfinder-online-auto-auctions/lot/28255262/COPART_1970_DODGE_CHALLENGER_CERT_OF_TITLE-SALVAGE_TRENTON_NJ/

anlauto · « **Reply #18 on:** October 12, 2013 - 12:17:22 PM »

Might need an air freshener...

tman · « **Reply #19 on:** October 12, 2013 - 12:36:24 PM »

Did hurricane Sandy do her bit?

Cuda Cody · « **Reply #20 on:** October 12, 2013 - 12:44:36 PM »

I wasn't thinking it was that bad, but I had a feeling something wasn't right and that's why I said "I see a few things that I would want to look at much closer before I would buy."

tman · « **Reply #21 on:** October 12, 2013 - 01:48:18 PM »

You can never make an accurate assessment on photos. So no big deal on your photo guess. Also, what was this car listing price? I just don't like it when a car is for sale, then buyers ask what's it worth. If I needed the forum's help, I would just say, "So and so is selling this car for $XXXXXX, think its worth it?" Ultimately, its up to the buyer to determine if its worth if for them. Pay the money to get an inspection if you cannot do it yourself, then pull the switch or not.
I like this T/A, but I wonder what it smells like? Big clue there. It will need a total resto on all electrical, get the corrosive salt water out of every nook and cranny. Its not a wasted car. It's probably more restorable than a rust bucket, but this will turn into one sooner than later.
Anlauto, you probably would know much more on this or other restorers.

anlauto · « **Reply #22 on:** October 12, 2013 - 03:52:06 PM »

Quote from: RocFinder on October 12, 2013 - 03:45:33 PM

I probably didn't mention to its where a bouts for a reason.........fu�?ing idiot......don't you think I would have mentioned it in a previous post.....again douche bag

I think he meant that he lives close and could check it out for you and also "good luck" in your purchase.

You're not making too many friends here with your potty mouth.

RocFinder · « **Reply #23 on:** October 12, 2013 - 03:52:40 PM »

Quote from: RocFinder on October 12, 2013 - 03:45:33 PM

I probably didn't mention to its where a bouts for a reason.........fu�?ing idiot......don't you think I would have mentioned it in a previous post.....again douche bag

Now that the cat is out of the bag.....here is the ad, I love the fact they are calling it a barn find !
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/4114598079.html

Would one consider this to be dishonest?

I apologize if I offended anyone with my potty mouth, but a private message would have been MUCH more appropriate, Challengerx. And again thanks to everyone who has responded. Using forum boards is a great way to not make a very expensive mistake! So now back to why this thread started...."what's its worth?" I'm sure there is a price still but just not the 39,000 price tag....

Cuda Cody · « **Reply #24 on:** October 12, 2013 - 04:24:25 PM »

IMO, not a great way to respond in front of a new group of people that are trying to help you, but you are free to say what you want.

Quote from: RocFinder on October 12, 2013 - 03:52:40 PM

I probably didn't mention to its where a bouts for a reason.........fu�?ing idiot......don't you think I would have mentioned it in a previous post.....again douche bag

anlauto · « **Reply #25 on:** October 12, 2013 - 05:40:15 PM »

First off...The asking price of $39K may be justified if the current owner made some great efforts to clean the car and dry it out, replace electrical etc...Everybody jumps to the conclusuion that he's trying to rip off the world. He bought the car from a salvage auction, possibly fixed it up and now he's trying to sell it. I don't have a problem with that. So he said it was a "barn find" and now obiviously that's BS, but again, we don't know if he's even the guy that bought it at auction, Maybe the car has changed a few times since flooded

? Who knows...

If someone tells me a car was a barn find and I have no reason to believe it's not, then when I sell it, I would call it a barn find too

I really honestly don't believe that's the case here, but you never know....

The numbers I was quoting earlier in this thread still stand unless it's still dripping water...

dutch · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2013 - 06:58:25 PM »

personally I wouldn`t touch a dive boat with a 10ft pole. Especially if it has been in salt water, it`s a matter of time before you can shoot a football through the rust holes.

tman · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2013 - 07:08:25 PM »

It could have been a barn find if it was originally in a barn where it flooded. As I said, its not a waste of a car, just a matter of what you want to do with a flooded car. Every electrical connection has to cleaned up. I would not buy it because I would have to pay someone to do the work. If you can do it yourself, then you are in a better position. Just a shame that it was damaged by mother nature.

hemiken · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2013 - 08:20:57 PM »

I think it would come down to how much you really want this car. I personally being able to do everything think it still would be a good investment, as long as you have the time to check the electrics yourself to see what is and what is not working electrically, keeping notes of what does and does not work for future reference sake. But once you got the car, i would pull the car apart totally, starting with a bare shell, it will be a lot of work, but the car does look super solid, and it needs saving. Confront the seller with your findings and offer an amount you are comfortable with, sorry to get off track for a second. I would then put the shell on a rottiserie, and water blast the crap out of it, while the body can be rotated to any angle to help drainage. Then using compressed air, blow dry it as best as possible. Then let it air dry while stil turning the body in different positions to allow ease of drainage again. Then once you are happy with the cleaning process, i use a Tectyal/Fish oil mix of 50/50 ratio. The Tectyal is a waxy product that is a rust preventative that is so hard to move around because it is so thick, and fish oil is so runny, they make for an awesome mix and this should stop and prevent any rust problems that could have started from the flooding. You will have to be comitted totally to go ahead and do this, or the whole buying process would be a waist of time and you might as throw money away. You will then have to clean every part you took off before you replaced it back on the car, very timely process.
But i believe this is one very special car that deserves to be saved. I remember seeing Troy from Moparts having the same colour combo T/A Challenger and it is a beautiful car and i think he regrets selling it sometimes, it too was a special car.

Just my opinion and professional analyses. Kenny.

Cuda Cody · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2013 - 09:08:51 PM »

You'll need to document the heck out of the car if you restore it. That car and VIN already shows up on a few registries as a flood car and most likely has a salvaged title. That will hurt the value in the long run and if I was going to put that much work, time and money in to a car I would not want a salvaged title and a car with a bad history.

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