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How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« on: October 15, 2013 - 09:14:03 AM »
For some reason, I thought I heard there were 9 engine options for 1970 but I can only count 8? 

Were there 8 or 9 engine options for 1970?  Thanks!
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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013 - 12:32:08 PM »
I think there were only 7 egine sizes, but around 12 engine combos with CR and carb choices???
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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013 - 01:43:26 PM »
For some reason, I thought I heard there were 9 engine options for 1970 but I can only count 8? 

Were there 8 or 9 engine options for 1970?  Thanks!

I count 9 for 1970:

C = 225 "Leaning Tower of Power"
G = 318-2bbl
H = 340-4bbl
J = 340-6bbl
L = 383-2bbl
N = 383-4bbl
R = 426 Hemi
U = 440-4bbl
V = 440-6bbl

I think the L-code 383-2bbl often gets overlooked.
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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013 - 02:04:54 PM »
I count 9 for 1970:

C = 225 "Leaning Tower of Power"
G = 318-2bbl
H = 340-4bbl
J = 340-6bbl
L = 383-2bbl
N = 383-4bbl
R = 426 Hemi
U = 440-4bbl
V = 440-6bbl

I think the L-code 383-2bbl often gets overlooked.

You forgot the 198 /6.

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013 - 02:15:37 PM »
In this ad they only mention one slant six (225).  They do mention THREE different 383's though.  They break down the 383-2, 383-4 and the 383 Magnum.  I don't know exactly what the difference was between the 383-4 and the Magnum.  :dunno:

Yes I own a 1972 Dodge Challenger Convertible T/A S/E with a 440 Six Pak. Can it get any more wrong?

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013 - 02:52:31 PM »
As far as i know the 4 barrel is the magnum. The Data book for the 1970 Challenger lists the 383 4-barrel engine twice. One with a dual snorkel air cleaner element and a single snorkel one on that was supposed to be standrad on the R/T. We know that's not correct. I think any difference never materialized, but I could be wrong on that. 383 4-bbl motors are N-code.

The 198 was introduced with the coupe (Deputy) model.

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013 - 10:13:50 PM »
Ok, dug up 1970 Challenger brochure pics.  1 340 engine and 3 383 engines!  Weird!

So one of the 383 is supposed to come with an unsilenced air cleaner but yet the pic shows a single snorkel air cleaner housing?  :clueless:



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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013 - 07:43:03 AM »
I don't understand the purpose of a 383 2 barrel?  :clueless: Seems to me one 383 would cover it?
  If it's fuel savings your after buy a 318 or slant 6?
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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013 - 08:08:37 AM »
Dodge Charger came with 383 330 hp Plymouth Road Runner came with 383 335 hp, if you ordered the Road Runner with air condition you got same engine as Charger 330 hp because this one didn't rev that much so the air condition blowed up.

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013 - 09:04:52 AM »
A question comes up though as RzeroB  mentioned the 340 Six Pack engine.

Why isn't the 340 Six Pack engine mentioned in the brochure or the Challenger T/A?  Was it something to do with when the T/A was introduced?  I thought I remember someone saying it was introduced late in the 1970 model year?  :clueless:
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Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013 - 09:11:51 AM »
A question comes up though as RzeroB  mentioned the 340 Six Pack engine.

Why isn't the 340 Six Pack engine mentioned in the brochure or the Challenger T/A?  Was it something to do with when the T/A was introduced?  I thought I remember someone saying it was introduced late in the 1970 model year?  :clueless:

Yes, the T/A and the Deputy were released later and aren't covered in the original dealer Data Book. I have never seen updated ones, only the What's new from Dodge brochure and Deputy brochure stored on Barry's site.

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2013 - 09:19:40 AM »
Cool, thanks for the info!  :thumbsup:
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013 - 02:08:00 PM »
Dodge Charger came with 383 330 hp Plymouth Road Runner came with 383 335 hp, if you ordered the Road Runner with air condition you got same engine as Charger 330 hp because this one didn't rev that much so the air condition blowed up.

That's bizarre? I wonder why they wouldn't just make the pulley bigger on the A/C compressor to slow it down?  :clueless:  That would have been cheaper?
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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013 - 07:28:09 PM »
The question about the different 383 (4 barrel) engines was discussed in an earlier post a while back. The carb's were different. The 335 hp had a Holley, the 330 hp had a Carter.
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Re: How many engines were available for 1970? 8 or 9?
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2013 - 06:58:50 AM »
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There is a post here somewhere...
Of the three 383's (383-2, 383-4, 383-4 Magnum), the first two shared the same cam, while the Magnum got the 440 cam.