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Offline Chlngrcrzy

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Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« on: October 19, 2013 - 09:52:02 PM »
Does anyone know of a breather with built in baffles, that works good. My valve covers have a place for baffles, but i busted a screw off in one of the nubbins as i was installing. Soft aluminum will not allow me to drill out the steel. This sucks, but i am sure there isa solution, always is.   :pullinghair:




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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2013 - 10:12:39 PM »
the factory breathers are full of steel mesh like steel wool , I have used them

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013 - 01:02:22 AM »
I had some baffles welded in on the inside of the valve cover, under the breather tube.
Keeps oil from splashing up the breather tube.
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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013 - 08:01:33 AM »
I had some baffles welded in on the inside of the valve cover, under the breather tube. Keeps oil from splashing up the breather tube.
No intention of diverting, let alone hi-jacking, tis thread but, if you ever get the chance, could you post some pics?

ChallengerCrazy, I ask as, even though I currently have a breather on the back side of a valve cover, occassionally (when run 'hard') my 440 "gurgles over"  after shutting her off. Most annoying (maybe evn kind of embarassing, on occsasion . . .).   

I've heard that replacing my oil fill cap with a 2nd breather may alleviate this problem (any opinions on that CP?) and, another buddy told me I oughta consider going back to the type of air filter that allows me to run a hose from the breather . . .

I'm kinda reluctant to do the latter so, I guess I'll be looking: a) to see if my current breather are as CP describes; if not, b) for the type breather CP describes; and, how you resolve this to your satisfaction, ChallengerCrazy!

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2013 - 08:53:31 AM »
You still need ot run a PCV to the carb to create a vacuum in the crankcase

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013 - 11:08:13 AM »
Everything has been helpful. I found that some of the parts companies like Mancini, Jegs, and summit actually sell a breather with built in baffles. Something like that should work then, right?

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2013 - 12:38:26 PM »
what about welding an alum plate to the posts inside the covers , it will work better with a plate there

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2013 - 03:23:05 PM »
what about welding an alum plate to the posts inside the covers , it will work better with a plate there
That was what i was thinking about. i know a shop that can weld aluminum. i am sure i can come up with an aluminum plate.

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2013 - 08:41:22 PM »
I had baffles welded in mine, and then ran air breathers, still driped a little oil, so i got some brass brillo pads and stuffed them in the tubes, no more drips and everything is fine so far.

 

sorry i don't have a picture of the welded baffles.



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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013 - 01:12:22 AM »
No intention of diverting, let alone hi-jacking, tis thread but, if you ever get the chance, could you post some pics?

ChallengerCrazy, I ask as, even though I currently have a breather on the back side of a valve cover, occassionally (when run 'hard') my 440 "gurgles over"  after shutting her off. Most annoying (maybe evn kind of embarassing, on occsasion . . .).   

I've heard that replacing my oil fill cap with a 2nd breather may alleviate this problem (any opinions on that CP?) and, another buddy told me I oughta consider going back to the type of air filter that allows me to run a hose from the breather . . .

I'm kinda reluctant to do the latter so, I guess I'll be looking: a) to see if my current breather are as CP describes; if not, b) for the type breather CP describes; and, how you resolve this to your satisfaction, ChallengerCrazy!

If valve covers were off, I would send picture. but they are on.  Imagine a 2 inch hole on a table, then you cover the hole with a box, open on the bottom.
the box is 3 in by 3 in by 1 inch high. then you open one side of the box.  That is what the baffle plate looks like that is below my valve cover breather hole.  Also,  I have a breather on each side. I plugged some of the breather holes on each breather, with some high temp silicon, so oil would not drip out of breather.  All you need is any kinda creative design, just so long as your engine block is vented. And the vent hole may only need to be the diameter of your thumb, for instance.
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013 - 01:18:05 AM »
underneath your edelbrock breather caps, if there are a series of small holes around the underneath of the cap,
just high temp silicon plug the holes that are on the bottom 180 degrees of the breather cap, where the oil would most
likely come out first. that should help keep some oil from dripping out. but baffles inside the valve cover may also be needed.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013 - 07:43:19 AM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013 - 07:45:45 AM »

One like this, with the nozzle pointed up, and maybe some brass wool in the cap, as mentioned earlier,
might help. You could even have a hose on the breather cap nozzle, going to a collection container.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trans-Dapt-Performance-Products-4806-Valve-Cover-Breather-Cap-/161122143292?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2583a0cc3c
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013 - 07:47:31 AM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013 - 08:05:41 AM »
No intention of diverting, let alone hi-jacking, tis thread but, if you ever get the chance, could you post some pics?

ChallengerCrazy, I ask as, even though I currently have a breather on the back side of a valve cover, occassionally (when run 'hard') my 440 "gurgles over"  after shutting her off. Most annoying (maybe evn kind of embarassing, on occsasion . . .).   

I've heard that replacing my oil fill cap with a 2nd breather may alleviate this problem (any opinions on that CP?) and, another buddy told me I oughta consider going back to the type of air filter that allows me to run a hose from the breather . . .

I'm kinda reluctant to do the latter so, I guess I'll be looking: a) to see if my current breather are as CP describes; if not, b) for the type breather CP describes; and, how you resolve this to your satisfaction, ChallengerCrazy!
Are you running a PVC valve? If not you should be?
Sorry to jump in here but.... that glass fuel filter scares the heck outta me. I had one once years ago that rattled apart and sprayed fuel everywhere. That and the glass can break and will in a fender bender spraying fuel right on your exhaust! :scared: Get rid of it PLEASE!
IMO those filters should be illegal to even sell! :nono:
( Sorry just the tech inspector coming out in me?)
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013 - 08:40:24 AM by brads70 »
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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013 - 07:57:01 PM »
Hey, no apology necessary and, yeah, even though that pic is 12 months old, I gotta replace that thing.  The previous owner did not really drive the car much at all and I think I've already put as many miles on it in a year as he did in the 6 or 8 years he owned her!

And yes, I shoulda posted back when CP brought it up: I AM running a PCV valve (and, I replaced it in the hopes it needing replacing might alleviate some of the "gurgle over" incidents but, no such luck).

Challengercrazy (the OP): sorry again for diverting your thread but, we seem (seemed?) to be in similar situations . . .

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Re: Valve cover breathers with built in Baffles
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013 - 11:06:58 AM »
No Problemo.    you guys are great teachers   :worshippy