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Offline Gumby

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Stupid question on power steering...
« on: November 09, 2013 - 12:30:34 AM »
Why was it designed for power steering fluid? Why not transmission fluid? If you feel the two between your fingers, power steering fluid has almost no "lubricity" compared to trans fluid, or motor oil. Just curious why they didn't design it for trans fluid or motor oil.
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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2013 - 01:23:06 AM »
 :eek7: Gumby, what are you talking about now :faint:
I know that i have used Transmission fluid in my valiant Auto and power steering for years and years.........  :smilielol: You really kill me sometimes buddy :roflsmiley:
Are you talking about modern car fluid ? :dunno:
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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013 - 02:10:59 AM »
Well, cars came out with power steering long ago. Stores sell power steering fluid. The advice is not to mix the two. Manufacturers recommend power steering fluid in their power steering systems. They don't advocate changing or mixing the two. I'm not getting why they just didn't design the system to use a known lubricant, such as transmission fluid or motor oil. What possible benefit could be had for designing a system that utilizes a completely differerant fluid? Yes, I get the difference between brake, motor and transmission fluid. Just curious about the power steering. I could see using hydraulic fluid, or transmission fluid, or even motor oil. I'm curious as how they came up with a "special" fluid that is recommended, and how it might be so different. BTW, Hyd. fluid has MUCH more "lubicity" than power steering fluid. Millions of people dump in whatever works when they are low. It's not a game changer. So why the difference? Why not make it a common fluid in the first place? That's all.
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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013 - 09:30:30 AM »
Never thought power steering fluid was really designed to lubricate, I always thought it was just for pressure....kinda like brake fluid.  My guess is the recommended fluid has the right operating temperature range (PS fluid can get quite warm due to where they are mounted and the lines run).

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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2013 - 02:07:07 PM »
Never thought power steering fluid was really designed to lubricate, I always thought it was just for pressure....kinda like brake fluid.  My guess is the recommended fluid has the right operating temperature range (PS fluid can get quite warm due to where they are mounted and the lines run).
Power steering units utilize a worm drive with ball bearings. They definately need lubrication. So why not just specify trans fluid or motor oil? That is my question. I got to thinking about this, because my Suburban developed a leak, and the store was out of power steering fluid, Yes trans fluid works just fine. So why not just specify trans fluid in the first place?
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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2013 - 11:43:24 PM »
therehas to be a difference in additives or lubricity spec that suits PS better or they would not make & spec a different fluid

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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2013 - 12:28:02 AM »
Maybe it has a tiny bit with the seals.  :dunno:  When I worked for Acura, rumor had it that if you used anything other than Honda power steering fluid the rack seals would start to leak.  I don't know how true this is.
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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2013 - 12:57:40 AM »
I love threads like this!  Thanks gumby!
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Re: Stupid question on power steering...
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2013 - 08:28:44 AM »
I like Bigg Dogg's answer, that's just my opinion.

Bigg Dogg  answered 6 years ago 


I am not sure of what type of SUV you have... But take my word for this ...... Power steering fluid and ATF (automatic transmission fluid) are NOT the same thing. ATF is a fluid designed for cleaning and friction, unlike the power steering fluid which is a lubricatiing hydraulic fluid. The ATF will mix ,sure, and will make the steering work, but will also be aggressive on the seals in the pump and gearbox or rack and pinion.. Just use the approved power steering fluid and you will not have any future problems.. The only cars that actually used ATF in the power steering are from the late '70s and back ,these vehicles did not have as sophisticated or such lightwieght material used in the systems, Your vehicle is probably mid to late '90s or newer and would be damaging to use ATF.

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