yeah your probably right john some may be installed incorrectly, and things like if you bought new axles like i did they could have been a touch to long and put pressure on the bearings all of the time who knows? and i guess some of it depends on what you plan on doing with the car, I ordered my dana & disk brakes from Cass last week and took brads advice on the tapered bearings and the 3/8" retainers. thx again brad for the info bruce