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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2013 - 07:23:51 AM »
Hey Crash, No worries buddy. :2thumbs: Sometimes a reset will be needed when adding a spring, contact a spring works and price a leaf for each side. :wave:
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2013 - 11:30:53 AM »
I was told that QA1 shocks will raise the rear slightly.
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2013 - 02:33:16 PM »
I was told that QA1 shocks will raise the rear slightly.
I didn't notice that when I installed them? (QA1 double adjustable)
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2013 - 08:16:03 AM »
As far as te extra leaf, when I was a teen I got full length helper springs from then ADAP, now Autozone.  You can find them anywhere or order them.

Are they the best, maybe not but they were cheap at the time.  I put them on an '81 5th Ave and it raised the back an inch or two and the handling improved a lot.

I did a search and do not see them, even at JC whitney.  Like a year or two ago I saw them at VIP auto and they were like $45 for a set of full leth.  Made by a cheap company that made a lot of trailer accessories.
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2013 - 01:01:11 PM »

Hey Brad

Did you have to raise the rear end to get the QA1 shocks in? I'm trying to decide Bilstien vs QA1 and want to get your take on the adjustability of the QA1.

Thanks,
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I didn't notice that when I installed them? (QA1 double adjustable)
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2013 - 02:22:52 PM »
Hey Brad

Did you have to raise the rear end to get the QA1 shocks in? I'm trying to decide Bilstien vs QA1 and want to get your take on the adjustability of the QA1.

Thanks,
Bryan

No I didn't need to raise the rear end to install them? Never heard of a shock raising the car before unless it's a coil over or air shock.  In my case I had to take some measurements at static ride height and fully extended to get the correct part #'s as mine car is lower than stock and might have bottomed out with the stock catalogue part #'s .
I needed  the adjustable feature for a couple of reasons, one with the Composite rear leaf springs the RCD Bilsteins didn't cut it. The rear end bounced around some. Composite springs react much quicker than steel in addition to being MUCH lighter. Second is I want to try out autocrossing my car. Adjustable shocks work well for this as you can dial in a comfy ride when on the streets then aggressive when your on the track.  Member Jamiez has then also ( for a second opinion)  For an everyday street cruiser I'm not sure you would see the benefit for the money spent?  :2cents:
The RCD shocks were great until I went with the composite leaf springs..... as the old saying goes, " going fast costs money! How fast do you want to go?"
Hotchkiss just came out with Fox shocks revalved to Hotchkiss specs. non-adjustable and single adjustable versions.  Might be a cheaper option too? Personally I'm not into the "shock of the month club" thing that's going on now. For a bone stock cruiser sure it might be great but I don't buy the " one shock fits all" thing that's advertised from a few of the suppliers. How does one shock cover different weights SB vs BB , different torsion bar diameters, heights,tires, brakes and driving style, never mind people that wander away from the stock set ups..... not that I'm any sort of an "expert" just my  :2cents:
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2013 - 08:52:00 PM »
Here it is with one long leaf spring added.

Mine hasn't settled yet until I drive it.
I plan to put bigger wheel/tire combo in the future. Year One Rallyes.



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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2014 - 01:34:03 PM »
A friend came up with the idea that I should install a pair of hi-jackers instead of adding a leaf or or anything else. That would be an easy fix for my need to raise the rear a little :)
Before ordering a pair, I thought I'd check with the people who knows these cars whether it's a good idea or not.

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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2014 - 03:48:36 PM »
I did the opposite with my SRT-10 truck.
Took me maybe 90 minutes to remove the short little helper leaf springs on the bottom that came on the truck from the factory. I brought the rear down over an inch by removing them. That plus the extended shackles brought my drop almost 3 inches to more level out the ride and look of the truck. I wasnt doing any heavy hauling or towing so it was a very common and well know mod on those trucks. Most dont care for the raked look of the stock truck.
Only issue I had was maybe a little axle hop when you punched it but I didnt really have that worry.

Accordingly, maybe a helper leaf might give you better traction off the line?   :dunno: :burnout:
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2014 - 09:06:18 PM »
A friend came up with the idea that I should install a pair of hi-jackers instead of adding a leaf or or anything else. That would be an easy fix for my need to raise the rear a little :)
Before ordering a pair, I thought I'd check with the people who knows these cars whether it's a good idea or not.

Thanks!


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Hi Jackers Air Shocks right?
Rough ride. Makes it feel like a big dump truck ride in the back.

Bad idea.   :2cents:
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2014 - 09:18:11 PM »
Hi Jackers Air Shocks right?
Rough ride. Makes it feel like a big dump truck ride in the back.

Bad idea.   :2cents:

yep, dump truck ride is a good description.   Lower the front if you want a bit more rake.  That costs nothing :)

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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2014 - 09:23:29 PM »
Not to mention, a lot of extra stress on a heavy gauge sheetmetal shock crossmember.
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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2014 - 03:06:27 AM »

Hi Jackers Air Shocks right?
Rough ride. Makes it feel like a big dump truck ride in the back.

Bad idea.   :2cents:


Old post, forgot someone already mentioned air shocks. Sorry.

Ok, I take it that hi-jackers is a bad idea so I better get back to the drawing table to find a solution that's better for the car :)


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Re: Raising the rear a little?
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2014 - 07:21:43 AM »
I have Hi Jackers air shocks on my Challenger now, drives like crap, removing them as soon as I get the new leaf springs I ordered from Firmfeel. I hope I get a good rideheight with those, I don't want to lower my car either. What about adjustable front brackets like theese?:

http://arengineering.com/products/e-body-with-super-stock-springs/

Those are for super stock springs but isn't there brackets like this for stock springs also? I remember seeing them somewhere.

Edit: Looking closer, they have them for stock springs, but only to lower the car.

http://arengineering.com/products/e-body/
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