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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014 - 07:07:18 PM »
71340RT, did you find that the sump will not fit if you turned it 90 deg so that the long side of the sump is against the radiator support? 




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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2014 - 01:18:41 AM »
Yes it will not fit turning the fuel sump 90 degrees as the 26 inch radiator is to wide and not enough room on the passenger side radiator support.


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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2014 - 11:11:52 AM »
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2014 - 10:40:10 AM »
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2014 - 12:44:13 PM »
Looks nice and all, but my first thought was what happens in a wreck or even a fender bender?  Having fuel there up front , pressurized or not makes me concerned?  :dunno:  Can that be mounted near the fuel tank?

What about mounting it on the firewall? Behind the aircleaner? Sort of out of sight and safer ? If you had a 6 -pack style aircleaner it would be hidden pretty good?
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2014 - 02:40:16 PM »
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2014 - 08:40:32 PM »
What about mounting it on the firewall? Behind the aircleaner? Sort of out of sight and safer ? If you had a 6 -pack style aircleaner it would be hidden pretty good?
I have not found room on the firewall anywhere as the fuel sump pump is bigger than it looks. I did get the linkage bracket I needed for the throttle cable as what is on the throttle body will not work for a chrysler and I made a extension for a throttle cable mounting bracket as the intake is a inch taller and the angle was all wrong along with the height. I painted the bracket today and here are a couple pictures. The 2nd picture has both brackets on so you can see what I'm working on. Sorry I have not made more progress but my job had me working 10 hours a day this last week and not much time for play.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2014 - 08:43:39 PM by 71340RT »


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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2014 - 06:39:27 PM »
You guys are eating a lot of popcorn....
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2014 - 12:16:49 PM »
71340RT, did you ever finish the E-Street install?

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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2014 - 04:08:00 PM »
Hi Jeff!

How are you coming along with finishing the install of the EFI system? Interesting thread ... with gas over $3 a gallon I think EFI and over-drive trans are the way to go if you actually want to drive your classic Mopar more than just to the show.

Looking at the pic of the fuel sump, I see two "grooves" in the cylindrical bottom portion of the sump assembly. If you haven't got it mounted yet, I would think a couple of band clamp brackets like those used to mount an AC filter/dryer cylinder can be modified and used to mount the sump to the inner fender.



When you get it all done, you will have to bring it on out to the First Friday show over on Gravois so we can all get a good look at it in person. Look forward to seeing it up close and checking it out. See you over on Gravois come May.
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2014 - 02:41:14 PM »
Hi Jeff!

How are you coming along with finishing the install of the EFI system? Interesting thread ... with gas over $3 a gallon I think EFI and over-drive trans are the way to go if you actually want to drive your classic Mopar more than just to the show.

Looking at the pic of the fuel sump, I see two "grooves" in the cylindrical bottom portion of the sump assembly. If you haven't got it mounted yet, I would think a couple of band clamp brackets like those used to mount an AC filter/dryer cylinder can be modified and used to mount the sump to the inner fender.



When you get it all done, you will have to bring it on out to the First Friday show over on Gravois so we can all get a good look at it in person. Look forward to seeing it up close and checking it out. See you over on Gravois come May.

I like the idea of band clamp on the lower groove and may try that. I have not finished the install yet as my stepfather passed away the end of January and was in Colorado for 4 days and the weather has been very cold here. Work has been busy with me working many 12 hour days. Went to Indy yesterday to the trade show and picked up a few more items I was needing for my cars. Today we have ice, sleet, snow and more cold temperatures. If the weather breaks when I get home from Las Vegas Nascar race next week I will get back to finishing the EfI install. I may get to the May Gravois show but I work 2nd shift so have to burn a vacation day to be off work. Work asked me last week about going to one of our plants for 2 weeks in Mexico but I have to much going on to even consider going to where it is nice and warm. I'll never get this finished if I don't stay home.


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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2014 - 03:51:01 PM »
Hi Jeff,

Sorry to hear about your stepdad. Its an unfortunate yet inescapable part of life that we all must deal with at some point.

What is with this crazy weather? I thought it was March? It will warm up soon ... and then we will all be running for cover when the tornado siren goes off! :22yikes:

I'm not that far from you and I work second shift too, so if you need some help on the EFI install give me a shout.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2014 - 03:53:12 PM by RzeroB »
Cheers!
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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2014 - 04:40:57 PM »
Hi Jeff,

Sorry to hear about your stepdad. Its an unfortunate yet inescapable part of life that we all must deal with at some point.

What is with this crazy weather? I thought it was March? It will warm up soon ... and then we will all be running for cover when the tornado siren goes off! :22yikes:

I'm not that far from you and I work second shift too, so if you need some help on the EFI install give me a shout.
Hi Tom
  Thanks and I will keep that in mind as sometimes people will see things differently. As soon as the weather changes I will be hitting it hard in the garage again. I'm only about 20 miles from Belleville which will give you a idea how far you are from me.


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Re: 73 Challenger getting Edelbrock E-Street EFI with fuel sump system
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2014 - 10:27:03 PM »
Well I did find some time to make a bracket for the sump pump and a bracket for the ECU box. There is not a long enough harness for the ECU or I would of mounted it inside the car. I made a bracket for the sump so it would sit straight up and down as the inner fenders are at a big angle on e-bodies. The twist and lock fittings for the fuel lines are pretty hard to use but I got them all on and hooked up today. With any luck if the weather is nice it will get fired up and drove in the next couple of weeks. Here are a few pictures of my progress.


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Re: 73 Challenger starts with Edelbrock E-Street EFI with sump system
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2014 - 10:07:25 PM »
Well I finally got my 73 Challenger running with the Edelbrock E-street EFI. I worked on finishing wiring it up last weekend and had to move the fuel filter as it needed to be lower or the hood would hit it when closed. Only problem I couldn't get it to start. I had spark and the fuel sump could be heard priming while the android tablet showed 58psi so I called Shelbyddogg. He has a couple of EFI setups and knew right away that it had no signal going to the fuel injectors. He asked about the tack wire and sure enough I never hooked it up so their was no signal telling the system the engine was turning over. Once I hooked up the tack wire it started right up and I set the timing as the distributor had been removed for the intake replacement. I did the vehicle setup on the tablet following the instructions setting the cam selection for duration @ 0.050 lift, the ignition type, and rev-limiter. After starting you must let it warm up to operating temperature at least 160F and then set target idle rpm before driving the vehicle. I have not drove the challenger yet but plan on it this weekend or if I get home early from work one day this week. Here are some pictures of the unit after moving the fuel filter and mounting the ECU unit along with the 2 relays 1 for the fuel sump and the other for the ECU.


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