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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2014 - 09:25:02 PM »
Hey Alan, on your customer's car, I would NOT drill holes and bolt that ugly sucker to the firewall like most do.


Get a bracket and mount it to the rear pan rail.

http://www.rocketresto.com/catalog/electronicignitionbrackets.html


what is the rear pan rail location?
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2014 - 09:33:58 PM »
Hey Alan, on your customer's car, I would NOT drill holes and bolt that ugly sucker to the firewall like most do.


Get a bracket and mount it to the rear pan rail.

http://www.rocketresto.com/catalog/electronicignitionbrackets.html


That's a great place to hide it, plenty of room, easy to get to and pretty much out of sight.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2014 - 09:35:54 PM »
what is the rear pan rail location?

I think he means the valley pan rail behind the intake manifold.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2014 - 09:40:06 PM »
I think he means the valley pan rail behind the intake manifold.

Oh, the B/RB manifold area in the back?

I don't have that. Hemi's are different. 
I mounted mine on the side where the holes are for the A/C condensor.

I don't like the firewall mount location either.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2014 - 09:55:26 PM »
Yea...I'm not the "engine builder" but the guy I'm working with is excited about trying out these new items. To say he's "old school" is an understatement, he suggested I stick with a carburetor etc... :screwy: :rofl:

Anyways....He has his own dyno so time on there won't an issue....He says he wants to show me the difference in HP comparing EFI to Carburetion, Hooker Headers to the TTI's I bought, and now we have some ignition options to play with too...I can wait.

FI can't beat a carb for peak horsepower.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2014 - 10:05:39 PM »
FI can't beat a carb for peak horsepower.
Your probably right, but the car's owner is actually more concerned with "streetabiliy" vs maximum horsepower...

Because I'm usually 100% stock kind of guy, these mods are all new to me....I'm trying to go for a really "stock" look....Stock valve covers, everything painted orange etc....even having the TTI's ceramic coated in a cast grey colour to mimic manifolds at first glance....I'm planning to mount the ECU on the factory bracket in the factory location on the firewall next to the voltage regulator.(see picture) This was an option in 71 and became standard in 72.....
I may hate it, but I'll see how it looks before drilling any holes
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2014 - 10:07:43 PM »
Car is an original N96 shaker car too....so the shaker should hide the ECU a bit and will most definitely conceal the EFI :2thumbs:
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2014 - 10:13:01 PM »

I don't like the firewall mount location either.

 :iagree:  I may use one of brackets and just live with the extra firewall holes put there by the previous owner.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2014 - 10:17:48 PM »
:iagree:  I may use one of brackets and just live with the extra firewall holes put there by the previous owner.

You can fix that even with the engine in place.
Use moving blankets to cover.

You would need to sand, weld the holes shut, then filler and primer.
Then spot paint with a jam gun. Followed by a clear coat.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2014 - 11:04:39 PM »
You can fix that even with the engine in place.
Use moving blankets to cover.

You would need to sand, weld the holes shut, then filler and primer.
Then spot paint with a jam gun. Followed by a clear coat.

That would be best, I'm just not to sure how well I would be able to match the FE5 red paint.
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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2014 - 02:29:01 PM »
Sorry to hijack the thread on the Rev - n - ator, but just can't help to put my $0.02 on having a CLEAN engine compartment.

Sure, the ugly ECU was an option; don't mean you need to put it there.

Kind of like AC.  Ugly as heck option, but there are ways to "clean" it up by getting rid of that monster compressor and with bouchillon brackets, hide the tiny Sanden down low.

I'm all about clean clean clean engine compartments.  As if the car had hardly any options.



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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2014 - 03:51:50 PM »
Well then sell me your Cuda vert so I can restore it back to 100% stock  :bigsmile:
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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2014 - 08:09:03 PM »
Sorry to hijack the thread on the Rev - n - ator, but just can't help to put my $0.02 on having a CLEAN engine compartment.

Sure, the ugly ECU was an option; don't mean you need to put it there.

Kind of like AC.  Ugly as heck option, but there are ways to "clean" it up by getting rid of that monster compressor and with bouchillon brackets, hide the tiny Sanden down low.

I'm all about clean clean clean engine compartments.  As if the car had hardly any options.

Ya, just like to see engine only. That's why I put battery in trunk.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2014 - 10:39:08 PM »
FI can't beat a carb for peak horsepower.

 I will argue that , EFI is more accurate with better fuel dist , we have dynoed engine with both a carb & EFI & the EFI will still make more power at WOT , you can also have a much larger Throttle body than a carb without losing velocity / aeration of the fuel + the drivability is improved with low vacuum long duration cams again as the correct amount & properly atomized fuel is delivered right behind the valves , there really is no downside .

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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2014 - 12:09:16 AM »

 I will argue that , EFI is more accurate with better fuel dist , we have dynoed engine with both a carb & EFI & the EFI will still make more power at WOT , you can also have a much larger Throttle body than a carb without losing velocity / aeration of the fuel + the drivability is improved with low vacuum long duration cams again as the correct amount & properly atomized fuel is delivered right behind the valves , there really is no downside .

Well, you got more experience than me. Just what I have read over the years, but the FI systems and their technology are improving. Most of the engine master
challenge winners seem like carbed engines , but that may be changing too.

I think direct injection is a big winner over carbs, if you can build it.  Seems most are port injection?
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