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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2014 - 09:11:00 PM »
I have the Chrome Mopar ignition box on my stock hp383. Would the Rev-a-nator be a waste of money to buy ?

Not according to Rev-a-nator....

My engine guy is going to switch boxes right on the dyno to see if there is a difference...I'll post the results...
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2014 - 09:26:13 PM »
Not according to Rev-a-nator....

My engine guy is going to switch boxes right on the dyno to see if there is a difference...I'll post the results...

Probably make more power with an MSD system.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2014 - 09:32:42 PM »
according to ?  :dunno:  I need to know which one to go with.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2014 - 10:22:53 PM »
There is little to no peak power to be gained between properly functioning ignition systems. Variation is usually within the accuracy limits of the dyno.  Features and reliability are the main differentiators

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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2014 - 10:44:08 PM »


My engine guy is going to switch boxes right on the dyno to see if there is a difference...I'll post the results...

Any idea when that will be? I look forward to the results.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2014 - 11:29:19 PM »
There is little to no peak power to be gained between properly functioning ignition systems. Variation is usually within the accuracy limits of the dyno.  Features and reliability are the main differentiators

Steve

How much spark crammed down a combustion chamber does it take until there's not any noticable difference?

You can spray it like an MSD, you can increase it, like a high voltage coil, and you can even multiple spray.

Yet in the end, it only takes one match to light a room full of gas fumes for it to explode.
That explosion travels at faster than the speed of sound.

The combustion pressure inside reduces voltage potential dramatically.
Keep in mind that even if you have a 60K volt coil; the combustion temp and compression dictate the resistance the actual voltage will actually be.

The point here is that if you really have alot of cylinder pressure (compression) being created, you investigate into higher ignition systems.

On the other hand, if you're running less than 10:5 to 1 compression; why do all this ignition upgrades?

That is my question!
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2014 - 11:34:30 PM »
with MSD, I set spark gap at .060.  Bigger spark!
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2014 - 11:40:21 PM »
with MSD, I set spark gap at .060.  Bigger spark!

What compression are you at?
How hot are the combustion temps inside?

Yet in the end, it only takes one match to light a room full of gas fumes for it to explode.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2014 - 11:49:06 PM »
What compression are you at?
How hot are the combustion temps inside?

Yet in the end, it only takes one match to light a room full of gas fumes for it to explode.

I think what goes on in a combustion chamber is a lot more complicated than we may think, if we
are talking about maximizing power output.  for ex, I cut back some of negative electrode on plug to expose
a larger flame kernal to the air gas mixture.  But that's just one of a number of things to consider.
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #69 on: May 08, 2014 - 12:07:18 AM »
Msd only multiple fires up to 3000 RPM so about the time you hit the powerband you are down to one spark like any other system , so the voltage is critical . get a good coil , good plugs & it should fire , , increasing the gap excessively is hard on the wires basically .045- .050 seems to be optimal , remember when GM was using .080 , they don't do that anymore .

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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #70 on: May 08, 2014 - 12:22:33 AM »
Msd only multiple fires up to 3000 RPM so about the time you hit the powerband you are down to one spark like any other system , so the voltage is critical . get a good coil , good plugs & it should fire , , increasing the gap excessively is hard on the wires basically .045- .050 seems to be optimal , remember when GM was using .080 , they don't do that anymore .

MSD says .060 is ok if you use their system, including wires.

I like the system on my LS1 engine, one coil per sparkplug.
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72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2014 - 10:03:28 PM »
Update.... They sent me a replacement Rev-N-Nator to replace the one I had that went bad.  I'm excited to put it back in and get the car back on the road.

Can't wait to see Alan put his on the Dyno with before and after results!
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2014 - 10:47:16 AM »
I have the Rev-N-Nator and I am having problems. Starts and idles ok but when you get on it a little it breaks down (runs rough) What size ballast resistor are you running? Tony said to use .5 or lower.
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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2014 - 11:35:09 AM »
I have the Rev-N-Nator and I am having problems. Starts and idles ok but when you get on it a little it breaks down (runs rough) What size ballast resistor are you running? Tony said to use .05 or lower.

Did you change the coil to recommended?

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Re: REV-N-NATOR
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2014 - 11:38:39 AM »
Yes MSD Master Blaster 2