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"Lifetime" T/A project-Redux
« on: March 22, 2014 - 06:52:06 PM »
Well, I searched back as far as the resto threads go, and didn't find my T/A thread.  I'm almost sure I made one back in the day, but must not have posted on it since before 2006........
Yeah, it has been a long road with this project and the end is still not in sight! A while back I committed to get this project back in gear, and it was almost a year ago today that we retrieved the car from an out of state shop where the car had sat ignored for years and moved it to a shop here in IL.
Anyway' as my old thread seems to be gone, I will begin with a thumbnail sketch of the car's history and the steps in the long frustrating restoration process........
Back in the 70's as an impressionable young kid getting interested in cars, reading Hot Rod and Car Craft, etc,  I dreamed of getting a cool used muscle car when I turned 16.  I was watching TV one Sunday night and a movie came on which changed my life, Vanishing Point!  Watching Kowalski tearing up the desert in his '70 Challenger had me hooked, I now knew what car I wanted when I got my license.  Reading up on my new crush, I soon learned about the T/A and AAR cuda and decided that was what I wanted.  In '78 I turned 16 and started my search with a couple grand in my bank account I saved from cutting lawns and doing odd jobs.  It took a few months but I finally found a T/A I could afford.  Seats were ripped and there was some rust here and there, but the engine was freshly rebuilt and it had that cool pistol grip shifter just like Kowalski was banging on in that life altering movie.  So in December of that year a red T/A was mine!  That little blue "Grand Spaulding Dodge" sticker on the spoiler didn't mean much to me at the time, lots of cars around here had them. So I had my cool ride, just in time for the worst winter in Chicago history...  Fortunately it died within a couple weeks and spent the next couple months sitting under a snow drift until spring, when me and my dad figured out the previous owner hadn't installed a thermostat when the engine was rebuilt, and that is why the plugs fouled up.  So I drove it to high school and my job at the grocery store, somehow didn't kill myself with it, I think with its 3:91 gears it scared me a little which kept me from getting too crazy.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111914442@N04/11915350354/#
Senior year my mom sold me her old Pinto, so I had a beater to drive, and from then on my T/A was a second car/hobby.  I'm starting to write a novel, so I'll get back to the thumbnail with a timeline of the car's history from when I got it until recently.
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Re: "Lifetime" T/A project-Redux
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014 - 07:09:40 PM »
-1980 after HS graduation I took the car to a body shop and had a new fender installed and rust around the rear quarters sandblasted and bondoed.  Other fender patched there too.  Had an local upholstery shop patch up the front seats.
-1981 my dad's cousin's friend who was a dealer body shop man and did side work repainted the car and installed new stripes. $750 was the cost which even included sending the bumper out to rechrome!  Shortly after getting it back I replaced the cragars on it with some 15X7 rally wheels.  Also some guy in a VW bug flagged me down one day, and sold me a set of factory window louvers which I installed.  Looking good in my freshly "restored" T/A!!! I even won my first ever car show trophy with it from Broadway Bob at Great Lakes Dragaway at their Mopar days car show.
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-1986 Finishing up college, starting my first engineering job, staying out too late bar hopping with my buds, and so on resulted in my car spending most of its time sitting in my folk's driveway under a car cover.  On top of that I took up a new hobby, flying, and that took a lot of my money in addition to my free time.  A few years after graduating I bought a house, and a 2 car garage was on the must have list while house hunting. Finally the T/A had a dry garage to rest in,  but alas, it spent almost all the time sitting ignored in that garage.  I did buy a couple parts from time to time for it, but for the most part didn't do anything much with it.  I last licensed it in '88 or '89. :banghead:
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014 - 07:34:36 PM »
-Halloween 1991. Trick or Treat! No treats this year for me. After work that fateful day, I went out to the airport to build some valuable actual instrument time on a drizzly evening, and woke up in ICU several days later with about every bone in my lower body broken, and being shown a picture of pile of twisted metal that used to be a  pretty white and blue Cessna Skyhawk.  During my next 4 months stuck in hospitals and a nursing home, some friends brought in car magazines for me to read, and I started thinking a lot about Challengers. I thought about how much I loved the look, but also about things that made me not enjoy driving my car as much as I should be.  I decided the manual steering, the position of the clutch pedal that had me constantly banging my left knee on the steering wheel, the fumes from the exhaust seeping in the open window while stuck in Chicago traffic, and poor ventilation while stuck in Chicago traffic were to blame.  So maybe I should get a Challenger with power steering, an automatic, and of course, a top that retracts and lets in the breeze!  So after recovering, I spent the next 5 years off and on searching for a convertible. I finally found my FK5 383 Challenger vert and my 2 car garage now housed a pair of '70's!  Enjoyed the heck out of it, and started attending lots of shows,  but at the shows I felt passed over for flashier rides... like T/As!  Darn it would be nice to have my T/A restored, then I wouldn't get passed over at the shows!  So there in the late 90's is what hatched my idea to do a ground up restoration of my mostly ignored T/A.
-' 98  got the insurance up on the car,  messed with it some and got it running,  illegally put the vert's plates on it and drove it a bit.  I took it up to work one day so I could stop at a classic car broker nearby on my way home to get it appraised.  A coworker who was a big Mustang guy checked it out and told me about a guy he knew in MI who did great restoration work especially on rusty cars.  Sounds good, who would know rust repair better than a Mustang guy!  At the car brokerage that evening, the guy there raved about my car as he appraised it.  Loved the matching #'s, originality, and Mr Norm's heritage.  That day really got me thinking more of getting something in gear with a restoration.  I talked to the restorer in MI and made a date to fly out there in the plane I co-owned (somehow surviving an unsurvivable accident didn't knock any sense in me...) and we hit it off pretty good.  I put down a deposit and a year later in fall of '99 he came over with a trailer and picked up my car.  I'd stripped out most of the interior,  removed most of the trim, and a lot of other odds and ends before it left for it's estimated 1 year restoration process.
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I also had hit the parts chasing task pretty hard and my house was starting to pile up with rare NOS and good used E body parts! OE gold at the Nats seemed like an attainable goal in my mind at the time.  Around this time I'd bought my Mr Norm's sales envelope too, so I had a pretty full pedigree for my car with all the included paperwork in the envelope.  One thing I found in the paperwork was that my car came with steel wheels, not rallys.  Everything was going my way at this time though, I found a nice set of '450 wheels pretty quickly for the project to go with the growing horde of parts filling up my stash. :woo:
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014 - 09:15:19 PM »
What an awesome story! Thanks for sharing. I could have scored an AAR 'Cuda back in the mid 80's but I didn't pursue it and of course wish I had. Maybe one day! Keep us posted on the project!!  :2thumbs:



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Re: "Lifetime" T/A project-Redux
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014 - 10:08:00 PM »
Lots more to come here, I haven't even got into the 2000's yet!  :eek4: Anyone know how to imbed a picture from Flickr?  I used to do it from Photobucket here no prob, my avatar is from Photobucket, but when I try to imbed something in this thread from Flickr I just get gobblygook!  :pullinghair:
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014 - 10:25:16 PM »
- 2000 Wish we could skip the 2000',s truth be known!  :puke: The decade started with my stock market portfolio crashing along with the tech wreck, and I felt poor.  So I didn't feel disappointed when my restorer called me to tell me he was going to the Mayo clinic to donate a kidney to his dad,and would be out of action for a while. Careful what you wish for.  :2cents: It turned out it would be a long while.  After recovery he said his doctor said he had some liver problem which would kill him eventually if he kept getting exposed to body shop fumes, but not to worry, he would finish the last couple cars in his shop.  He said he was taking a job with a family business but again, don't worry he would work in his shop evenings and weekends to get the cars he had committed to do done.  I still remember him assuring me, don't worry I won't leave you hanging.
-2004 I'm getting frustrated as he is just giving me stories when I call and no progress seems to be happening beyond the car having been stripped down to a shell shortly after it got to the shop.  My little voice is telling me I'm going to have to get the car out of there if I ever want it done.  But my work is going downhill and I am feeling nervous about my job security so moving to a new shop now is not practical.  Early 2005 I did get laid off after 14 years at the same company,  but fate is smiling at me, as I found a better job in just 4 short weeks!!  I'm feeling a lot better about life now, and getting this car project going gets back near the top of my priority list.  That summer I went to MI and paid him a visit, and my visit must have had an effect, as he started to get into the car pretty seriously shortly afterward.  He wanted to send it to the media blaster but decided it was not structurally sound enough for that because of the rusty A pillars, plus since we were going to replace the trunk and quarters, it seemed silly to send it to the blaster with the old rusty trunk and old quarters on it.  So he started to hit the metal work hard, and within several months he'd replaced the trunk floor with a nice used trunk I'd bought and had shipped in from AZ. He installed Goodmark Quarters and rebuilt the A pillars and patched holes in the firewall. Sadly, I got laid off from my new job after less than a year,  but after all the trouble getting him to work on my car,  I dared not stop him now,  so I sucked it up and dug up money to pay some bills even though my income was down to just unemployment.  In June 2006 the car went to the strippers to get media blasted.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014 - 10:46:30 PM »
-late 2006 to 2007  in winter 2006 a guy who had my restorer do a '68 Charger for him in the late 90's,  lived nearby the shop and liked to do small projects asked if I wanted him to restore my front end,  K member and front suspension for me for a very reasonable hourly rate and I said that would be great.  I asked him how my car looked after media blasting and painted in etching primer since I hadn't heard an update from the restorer,  and he said "it's not at the shop",  WTF??  It went in to the strippers in June, and I paid the guy upfront, how could it not be done and back at the shop by now, should have been back months ago.  I called my restorer and asked what the he!! was going on.  He tells me, uhhh, I thought you never paid the stripper and that is why he didn't finish his stripping work on it.  I say "He called me in June and even though I was unemployed at the time, I sent him a check for $1500".  He tells me he's really mad, the stripper has had some health problems but still there is no excuse and he'd go to the strippers shop and finish media blasting my car himself if he has to.  A month or two later my car is back in the shop blasted and in etching primer.  I'm eager to hear progress as he gets back with his work on it.  He tells me he's only got 2 cars in the shop and isn't taking any new projects so he can devote himself to these 2 projects.  Sounds good! Then, crickets......
Something really cool happened around this time though.  One day I head up to a "Mr Norms Mopar Show" at the Volo Auto museum in my convertible.  Not long after I get there, I see a red with black top T/A pull in that doesn't look familiar.  I walk over to where the guy parks his car at the show, and as I walk up I see him getting out Mr Norms paperwork to display with his car.  Wow, a red Mr Norms T/A just like mine!  Then I look at it's VIN.  It's 2 numbers past mine!  :22yikes:  From the option sheet, it looks exactly like mine.  I start talking to the owner and he tells me he found a broadcast sheet for a car right after his and it was an identical T/A to his.  Whoa!  Did I mention his T/A is unrestored too.  That evening I emailed Barry Washington and he tells me my car is actually the first of 4 identical consecutively VIN numbered T/A's sold by Mr Norms.  He's seen the paperwork for the car after mine but it's whereabouts are unknown.  But mine and the last 2 are!  The last car is supposed to be in the Atlanta area somewhere.  But mine and the one at the show are within 15 miles of each other in the Chicago burbs.  This is incredible news, sort of like finding out you have a brother or sister you were separated at birth from and never met. Cool 3 still exist, here in the rust belt that's a great survival rate, and there is always a chance the missing one is still out there hiding in a barn or something and will turn up someday. Keep your eyes peeled for an FE5 T/A SBD 4/15 with a VIN ending in "737" please!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/111914442@N04/12201124255/#
My car's paperwork had "add rally wheels" handwritten on it, but that had been scratched out.  This car at the show at the same thing written on it but not scratched out.  So those rally wheels have been on it since it was at Mr Norms dealership.  Sounds like they did the same with my car but the original purchaser didn't want them or refused to pay for that dealer upgrade?
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2014 - 10:26:05 AM »
I also saw Vanishing Point in a theater with a Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry double feature and had to have a Challenger.
Got my 1st 4spd Challenger in '76, Had my 70 RT since 1980. Paid a whole $1000 for it.

In your "download photo" section, select the pushpin-thumbtack icon, select small, medium or large, then copy the data to past into your post.
The medium one below here I copied as:
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I removed some characters so it would not display the pic in this section.

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I found some of your old threads but the pics are gone.
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=37179.msg372339#msg372339

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=36194.0

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=36194.msg362638#msg362638
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Re: "Lifetime" T/A project-Redux
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2014 - 12:25:36 AM »
Thanks for the info, I wonder if I am on a newer or older version of Flickr as I don't see a "download"  When I view one of my pictures, I see several icons below it including a rectangle with an arrow which says " more ways to share", click on it, and a box comes up where you can "grab  the link" like I posted, or "grab the HTML/BBcode code" which gives you a choice of embed, HTML or BBcode.  I tried embed previously and it gives you 3 or 4 lines of codes which didn't do anything when I pasted it in my post.  I'll try HTML now, guessing that doesn't work either......
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/111914442@N04/12201612006/" title="TA 1980 by schroederbrad41, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/12201612006_3e95d5277c.jpg" width="500" height="282" alt="TA 1980">[/url]

Photobucket was a lot better in giving access to a simple link you could use to embed pics, but otherwise was a PITA.......

Sort of sad seeing my old thread, really did seem like things were back on track for a time back then.  :'(

There was a Mopar swap meet here today and the shop my car is in now had a table so I brought some parts from home to drop off.  I had all the window and vinyl top trim pieces which I'd had polished a few years back. I got home after the swap meet and found 2 trim pieces in my upstairs hall I'd forgotten to load in my car earlier as I was getting ready to leave for the meet.  Dohhh!  :stomp:
They'd tried to order a new vinyl top from Legendary a few weeks ago and they are on back order, so I guess my forgetting several pieces of trim isn't critical just yet.  I also dropped off my NOS set of stripes.  I sure hope they are still good, I've heard the ones Performance Graphics and Pheonix graphics aren't quite right so I'm really hoping this 25 year old stripe set is still usable!!!!!!
I'd be getting ahead of myself with my story if I let slip the body is shiny and red now as of last month!   :woohoo:
The bills have really been piling up and I have a ton of stuff I've been putting off so I've been wanting to wrap up things to a point soon and put the project on ice while I catch up on life, then make the final push to get it all reassembled later, however there is reason to try to get it done in the not too distant future.  My friends (and for 3 or 4 days every fall, employer) Bob and Vicki Aston of the MCACN show aka best muscle car show in the world  :2thumbs:) were also at the swap meet today.  I was talking to them and they said there will possibly be a 45th birthday T/A and AAR display at their 2015 show.  I was already pretty frustrated in 2011 when they had a T/A display and my car wasn't in any shape to be there, my twin was, but mine wasn't of course.  Also I heard there will be a T/A and AAR reunion in Carlisle in 2015 so having my car done by 2015 would really be great.  It's another well over a year away, but it's going to be a challenge(r)!
It's getting late so I'll get back to finishing up the background and get to everything that has happened over the last year when I have some time this week..... :popcorn:

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2014 - 08:41:03 AM »
Thanks for the info, I wonder if I am on a newer or older version of Flickr as I don't see a "download"  When I view one of my pictures, I see several icons below it including a rectangle with an arrow which says " more ways to share", click on it, and a box comes up where you can "grab  the link" like I posted, or "grab the HTML/BBcode code" which gives you a choice of embed, HTML or BBcode.  I tried embed previously and it gives you 3 or 4 lines of codes which didn't do anything when I pasted it in my post.  I'll try HTML now, guessing that doesn't work either......


Photobucket was a lot better in giving access to a simple link you could use to embed pics, but otherwise was a PITA.......


I'm not sure why I was able to get it to work.
I don't use Flikr at all.
I have been using Photobucket since 07 and still do.

Stay on him and get your car away from him as soon as possible. When a car is there that long, parts get lost or the guy dies or closes up shop.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2014 - 05:49:07 PM »
It is in a new shop as of one year ago this month, hadn't got that far yet.  Takes a while to get even a brief summary of the last 15 years since I started this "couple year project" (cue Gilligan's island theme here "3 hour tour" LOL).
Anyway, I'll try to wrap up and get to the last year where much progress is being made.  2008 started out good, with the new Challenger coming out I was excited about the possibility of getting an RT with a 6 speed when they came out in '09.  I had a 2 car garage and if I got a new Challenger, I wouldn't have space for it along with my convertible and T/A in my garage.  Plus my old garage had seen better days, the roof was leaking and sagging under the weight of 4 layers of shingles it had got over the previous 50 years.  So I looked into maybe increasing the size of my garage and having a new raised roof put on that would give me room for a 4 post lift I could use to get 3 cars in there. I found village building codes wouldn't allow me to raise the roof height, but a friend suggested I talk to a contractor about tearing down my old garage and building a new 3 car.  I did that, and came up with an exciting plan.  Refinanced the house to take equity out to build the garage and do a long overdue remodeling of my kitchen.  I was also excited about the 2008 Mopar nats as the feature was "year of the Challenger".  I found someone to trailer my convertible out there for the show and had a blast, after the show, I took the car over to a friend's house in a neighboring town who was kind enough to let me park it in his garage for a couple months while the new garage got built.
Things started going downhill around then though, the economy was going downhill, work was going downhill, my 14 year old niece got diagnosed with cancer, the stockmarket started crashing down, the presidential election, etc.  I was bumming out, after the contractors got done with their work, I spent my evenings out in my new garage just about every day insulating and putting up drywall and trim and painting usually until midnight.  Working on the garage allowed me a few hours to escape the lousy events going on in the world then.
Nothing seemed to be happening with the T/A project that year, but I had other things on my mind.  A few weeks after the election I got the boot at work, around then I retrieved my convertible to bring it back to its new dwelling, and I settled down for a depressing winter unemployed with poor prospects of a new job anytime soon.  I ended up being out of work all through '09 into 2010.  I did climb out of my funk in spring and finished up some projects with my new garage and set to work remodeling my kitchen with the money I'd left from when I'd refinanced the previous year.  With all the time I had on my hands I was able to thoroughly plan the project, shop around for deals, and act as the general contractor. The timing worked out great with the new garage too.  With an open stall in the new garage, I had a nice free and secure dry space to stage all the remodeling materials like the new cabinets, my stove, my new refrigerator etc.   I ended up completing the project under budget, with enough money left over to have a contractor install a much needed new front door on my house.  I was glad I was able to take advantage of my bad situation that year to successfully complete a big project as when I'm working all day full time it's so hard to find the time and energy to devote to big projects.  A silver lining to a black cloud!
2010 I found a new job finally, even paid better than my last one! Around this time Ron from MI called me up about my engine.  He has an engine shop near the restorer's shop, and my engine had been sitting there for several years because he was going to rebuild it.  He was holding off on the engine waiting for progress to be made on the car, as he didn't want the completed engine sitting around for years not being run.  But he was getting tired of seeing my engine sitting around his shop and wanted to get it done and out of there.  He also had hopes that seeing my engine done might motivate his friend with the restoration shop to get in gear with my project so the engine would get installed in it.  So I OK'ed him getting going on the engine.
I'd gotten a home equity line when I refinanced in 2008.  An untapped HELOC and a open space in a garage is a very dangerous combination. :2cents:  In September I went to the Mecum auction in my area with the thought that if I could get a bargain, I'd bid on a few cars.  The couple cars I'd had my eye on didn't work out, but for laughs and grins I tossed out a few bids on a '71 Challenger R/T V code well below what I figured the reserve would have been, and no one was more surprised than me when the reserve got dropped and I was high bidder.  :22yikes: :screwy:  When I went there the next day to pick up my purchase, I met the seller who was none too happy the bidding stalled out after he agreed to drop the reserve.  Reviewing the file of paperwork for the car he gave me later,  I saw the reserve he'd set and it was indeed about where I expected, 20K over what I'd bid.
Very cool car I'd never thought I'd own, but that certainly added another complication to my T/A project, between taking up the open stall in the garage reserved for it, and taking up time and money while I fixed up some issues on my new ride.  I displayed it in Mopar Alley at the MCACN car show 2 months after I got it, and in 2011 it was invited back to be in the 1971 invitational display.  Great car but I still question my sanity sometimes.  What can I say, I'm nuts about Challengers!  :smilielol:
My niece's battle with cancer wasn't going well, I heard a former engineering colleague of mine died of a heart attack at 46, my 50th birthday not far off in the future, I was thinking more of my own mortality. I couldn't let the T/A project languish forever.  I'd pretty much lost hope for the restorer in MI getting back in gear with it, but moving to a quality shop would cost 10's of thousands of dollars to complete I knew, and with my poor job security in recent years it was hard to make any big financial commitment. Yes, I'd spent a lot of money on an '09 Challenger and a '71 Challenger R/T in recent times, but those were cars I felt I could turn around and sell quickly if need be, the '09 for a little loss, the '71 at least break even..... more likely make a profit.  The T/A I'd owned so long is different,  I could never see selling it, so any money spent on it was money I'd never get back.
For years I'd known and been friends with Mark from Blue Star restorations.  He'd be at many shows I attend, displaying beautiful Mopars he'd restored.  I had in the back of my mind talking to him about taking over my project, and at MCACN 2011 when I had my '71 in the invitational and he had his display there we started to talk about my car.  He gave me some estimates of time required based on my descriptions of where things were at with the car.  As luck with have it with me, I had just gotten laid off once again shortly before the show that November.  :banghead:
But in 2012 I found another job, and soon afterwards I contacted Mark and said I think I want to get something on your schedule, I want to move my T/A to your shop!
So there is my "brief thumbnail" of the last 15 years for background, so I can finally start posting about the project and all the progress made since I made the decision and commitment to move it to a new shop.  I apologize for => :drama: but that's is my reality of how life got in the way of getting this project done for so long!

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2014 - 06:15:41 PM »
I love it when cars come with a good story  :2thumbs:
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014 - 02:00:35 AM »
rad pics !
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