Author Topic: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?  (Read 1768 times)

Offline dakota

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 585
Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« on: March 26, 2014 - 06:35:36 AM »
I have a new-to-me 70 Challenger with a 340-4 bbl and A-833 4 speed.   Once the weather gets a little warmer, my first work on the car will be to drop the transmission out to change a bad clutch throwout bearing.   Once the transmission is out, is it possible to reach all of the bolts holding the bellhousing in place?  I'd like to get a peak at the clutch disc and flywheel and replace them too if need be. I'm not planning to pull the engine until next year unless it gives me a reason to yank it earlier.




Offline anlauto

  • Permanent Resident
  • *******
  • Posts: 12328
  • I'm Alan G...I'm a Mopar Addict
    • Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014 - 06:53:54 AM »
Yes, it's fairly easy with a ratchet and long extension, or a couple from up top with a ratchet wrench :2cents:
I've taught you everything you know.....but I haven't taught you everything I know !
www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com

Offline CudamanTom

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 2670
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014 - 06:55:58 AM »
Yes, it's fairly easy with a ratchet and long extension, or a couple from up top with a ratchet wrench :2cents:
Alan is absolutly correct. Pretty easy to get to all the bolts.
1971 Cuda Vert 440-833 - (clone)
1971 Cuda 440-727 - (clone)


Because I like it fast!!!

Offline HP_Cuda

  • Hit the skinny little pedal on the right!
  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5268
  • Mopar or No Car!
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2014 - 06:46:17 PM »

A lift would be pretty useful here, I really don't envy what you are trying to do.

 :popcorn:
1970 Cuda Clone 440 4 speed - sublime green
1970 Cuda 383 4 speed - yellow - SOLD

Offline dakota

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 585
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2014 - 07:31:47 PM »
Thanks much for the quick replies and guidance.

HP_Cuda - I have a transmission jack (small scissors lift) to help, but having done this before on a project Camaro I know it will be a pain.   I take strange satisfaction doing this kind of stuff myself.   I learned the hard way that I suck at body work, but I'm hoping the remaining mechanical work will be something I can handle.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/Smileys/default/working.gif

Offline anlauto

  • Permanent Resident
  • *******
  • Posts: 12328
  • I'm Alan G...I'm a Mopar Addict
    • Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2014 - 07:34:26 PM »
A lift would be pretty useful here, I really don't envy what you are trying to do.

 :popcorn:

I never had the enjoyment of a lift...Done all my restorations laying on my back :'(
I've taught you everything you know.....but I haven't taught you everything I know !
www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com

Offline cktasto

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 10
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014 - 07:43:32 PM »
Yes, it's fairly easy with a ratchet and long extension, or a couple from up top with a ratchet wrench :2cents:
Agreed.
just did this with my buddies 66' charger... I believe they're similiar. need to prop up the motor after the transmission support is removed  and have a swivel for the socket when going after the bolts on top.
good time to check the alignment of the clutch housing as well

Offline dakota

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 585
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2014 - 08:06:52 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion on checking the housing alignment.   I was about to ask how to do the check, but I found a thread elsewhere
(http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=97287.msg955932#msg955932) that explains how.   

It's a little scary to think how a gearhead wanna-be like me could find help without something like this website or YouTube.   Got a disc brake rotor that you can't break free of the bearing hub when doing a brake job?  No problem - there's a clip for that.   Table saw motor quit running and trying to avoid dropping $400 for a new Sears "DEEELux" motor?  No problem - here's a clip to show you how to check your capacitors and figure out which one is cooked (a $10 part).   Need to align a clutch housing?  No problemo - here's how.

Life is good.  http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/Smileys/default/bigsmile.gif

Offline cktasto

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 10
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2014 - 11:04:06 PM »
I couldnt agree more! the internet is awesome for do it yourselfers and hobbiest.

Offline HP_Cuda

  • Hit the skinny little pedal on the right!
  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5268
  • Mopar or No Car!
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2014 - 11:29:43 PM »
I have done crazier repairs but that was in my youth!

Thanks much for the quick replies and guidance.

HP_Cuda - I have a transmission jack (small scissors lift) to help, but having done this before on a project Camaro I know it will be a pain.   I take strange satisfaction doing this kind of stuff myself.   I learned the hard way that I suck at body work, but I'm hoping the remaining mechanical work will be something I can handle.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/Smileys/default/working.gif
1970 Cuda Clone 440 4 speed - sublime green
1970 Cuda 383 4 speed - yellow - SOLD

Offline dpcd67

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 278
Re: Can I remove the bellhousing without pulling the engine?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014 - 01:57:14 PM »
You are right to replace the clutch whilst you have the tranny off. I use wheel ramps, which gives me another foot of clearance; I feel safer than when the car is supported on jack stands while I am under it.
1963 Dodge M37 (3)
1967 Dodge WM300 (2)
1971 Plymouth Duster
Bought new in '71; I wanted the Challenger but they were $2850; too much $ so I got the 318, 3 speed on the floor, Twister Duster for $2100.
1973 Plymouth Barracuda
I ain't done yet.