833 od trans 3 and 4th gear lever

[67Vette427]

Hi Everybody,

I just put in the 833 OD trans after having it rebuilt. I put the 4 speed linkage in as its suppose to be with the rods and levers above the nuts. The funny thing is that when its like that and you shift into 3rd its going into 4th. 4th is 3rd. So I reversed the 3-4 lever to the bottom. Is there a chance they goofed something up at the rebuild shop or is that the way it is with the od trans?

Thanks

[Chryco Psycho]

that is the way the OD works , Mopar just turned the lever down to reverse the position of the gears so it shifts correctly
 make sure the 3-4 rod is not draggong on the crossmember 

[67Vette427]

Thanks Chryco, its close but clears. Do you know if the linkage Hurst sells now is the same fit and quality of the original linkage?

[OUTLAW]

nothing is the same quality as it used to be ....LOL

[Chryco Psycho]

the hurst aprts I have seen are good quality , but I don`t believe Hurst makes shift rods or levers for the E bodys

[67Vette427]

Another issue after flipping over the 3-4 lever is that its really hard to get it into first and second now. Would that be caused by the 3-4 rod needing adjustment or maybe reverse?  Thanks ::

[Chryco Psycho]

if you used the OD levers the rod length needs to be adjusted to work correctly , possibly the adjustment is off or the rod needs to be bent slightly to clear properly 

[67Vette427]

Boy, I've adjusted this linkage about 10 times.... Reverse goes in nice, 2nd to 3rd is good and 3rd to 4th is good but 1-2 feels like something is putting a lot of presseure on the gear box and it almost grinda getting it in 2nd. It seem to shift better if you build the revs a bit in first, let off and then hit second. I beginning to think they screwed something up on the rebuild. :ack:

[Chryco Psycho]

anything is possible , did you try operating the lever with the shift rod off to see if it si overly hard to move that way ?
 

[67Vette427]

Yes, with the rod off and the the others off. Even with the engine off or at a stop all gears shift great. The clutch is new and engages early with a lot of pedal. Its just when you're driving that 2 nd gear especially is very hard to get into. Feels like it has a lot of pressure on it.

[BB72Chally]

I went through an issue with shift rods on my A833 OD, and after talking with Brewers and CP, this is what I came up with. The shifting tabs that I was using were the standard tabs used on 833 E-bodies (non-OD) they were #058 for 1st and 2nd, #057 for 3rd and 4th, and #368 for reverse. The problem I ended up with was the angle of tab #058 was slightly off which made it difficult to exactly align nominal neutral in the shift gate. Using a 3/16 allen wrench to keep the shift gate in neutral, I was barely able to align and insert the 1/2 shift rod with a slight pressure on the shift gate tab.

What I ended up doing was changing the shift tab for 1st and 2nd to one with a different angle. I removed #058 and used #064 that I got from Brewers. That made all the difference in the world. Now I am able to keep nominal neutral set up in the shifter gate with the 3/16" allen, and insert 1/2 shift rod cleanly, without any pressure. Shifts a whole lot better now.

I'm not sure if this will help you out or not, just thought I'd pass it along. :coffee:

[67Vette427]

Thanks. When you had your problem, was it really hard to pull it out of first and then a real tough shift to second? My neutral gate seems fine and it will go into all gears easily with the engine off.

[BB72Chally]

No, sorry, no driving test yet. Still in the middle of restoration. I'd recommend calling Brewers and see what they have to say.

[67Vette427]

Problem solved...finally :laughup:

The second gear problem was the linkage or fluid. It was caused by the shop that rebuilt the transmission. The second gear is different on the 833 OD and has to fit in a special way.

Other than that i like the OD. I cut down the front bearing to 4.80" and used the stock e-body linkage but flipped the 3-4th lever as its meant to be or when you shift to 3rd it will be 4th. The other nice thing is it is an aluminum case and you can almost put it in with one arm.

Next come the Hemi  :eekbig:

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[cuda]

833 O.D. was the best thing that ever happened to my Cuda    :thumbs: