Author Topic: How rare? (Read 3120 times)

Bluemonster71 · « **on:** April 20, 2005 - 07:38:10 AM »

I was wondering if any of you that have a 71 Challenger RT have these items on it.

1. For steel body trim I have blacked out peices. I have never seen a Challenger with this. Almost all the peices are have covered in what appears to be a heavy black tape or decal blacking out the bare steel trim from half way down the molding of the deck lid to the tail finish pannel. Same thing for the front hood molding.

2. I also have the center counsel that has the seat belt holders in the rear when others have a ash tray. I got into a arguement with a guy at a swap meet about that. He told me that it was replaced because they didn't use that style in 1971. I said eat it because my father bought the car brand new in 1970 and is all original.

3. My engine date on the block is November of 1970. Does that mean I could have the 70's year higher performance 383?

4. Does any one else have the radio with a counsel mount cassete tape deck (not 8-track) with microphone for voice recording whitch I still have but tape player doesn't work.

Just wondering because according to production #'s I have 1 of 255 that were made the same.

HEMI HUNTER · « **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2005 - 08:40:46 AM »

Rev-It-Up · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2005 - 08:57:19 AM »

Sounds like you have an early model 71. On a few of the RT peices that were supposed to be 70 only, I've seen where mother mopar must have had extras and put them in 71's until they ran out. For instance the 8 grand tach was supposed to be a 70's only but it was still found in some 71's. (I bet yours has one too).

MEK-Dangerfield · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2005 - 02:02:41 PM »

As for question 2 and 4... The console you have is indeed a 1970 console. That may have been a leftover that your car got, but I never saw one in a 71. The cassette is also rare. I guess I should ask if you still have the original radio that it plugs into? That setup would be worth a fortune if you got it to work. I like how the cassette player came with a microphone. Do you often record yourself singing???� :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

� Mike

Carlwalski · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2005 - 02:09:47 PM »

I wouldn't mind seeing these production numbers......

There would be no record of these items and in how many cars. All we do know for sure is that the engine break down, trans and sometimes the color of cars is about as much as we know. Even then it's not a sure bet. �

The only true way to find out if you cars is 1 of # is to line all those model cars up on a big field, same color, engine, trans, options and work from there.....impossible. �

The console you have is a 1970 console no doubt about it. Double check with your Father, may be a factory replacment. �:dontknow:

Your engine should have "hp" on the top pad, that would indicate a hp engine.

I don't have a cassette tape deck and mic, would be fun though. �

Sounds like an interesting car, any photos?

1973challenger360 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2005 - 02:29:17 PM »

there should be a date on the bottom of the consol. the tape decks seam to be in a lot of the very well optioned cars , there rare but not unheard of. The new mopar collectors guide has a white 440-6 71 cuda vert with brown interior, if your tape player and consol are brown thats a rare car.

#3 what does your vin and tag say ?

Bluemonster71 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2005 - 03:39:25 PM »

The vin is js23n18244055. And yes I know for a fact the consoul was never replaced.
I was trying to refind the site that had the ammount of cars that were made with the exact options as mine but that was a few years back and I am not sure how I got there.

I have the original radio on a shelf that doesn't work anymore but the replacement doesn't let me get signal from the tape deck. It plays the tape rewinds fastfowards but I have to find out why it doesnt give signal. It worked with the original radio prior to it not working. And the tape deck is black.

And I'm sorry the car its self was bought in Nov of 1970 I belive the motor was july of 70. I will check the block later tonight and document all the numbers.

I was reading the broadcast sheet to find some info.
The radio code is R26 am w/stereo cassette

The engine is E 65 383 1-4bbl 300 hp

xxxxx48 carb is holley 4160 4bbl #r4667

Its just some cool stuff to know what your supposed to have with your car

Rev-It-Up · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2005 - 04:28:55 PM »

Do you have an 8 grand tach?

hemi71 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2005 - 04:43:03 PM »

It's not unusual to see an engine build date predate the car by several months or more..usually not more than 4-6. Is the date you are talking about the engine date or the casting date on the block. And since you know the car from new, you know the partial VIN on the motor matches the car's VIN.

hemi71 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2005 - 04:45:39 PM »

Oh, BTW...the carb codes for a 71 383 4 bbl, 4 speed car without fresh air package.

Sounds like you got a very nice Challenger there!

n9671x2 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2005 - 06:37:10 PM »

The blacked out anodized is correct for 71 R/Ts. Earlier 71 E bodies got the 70 style console. 2 nights ago I picked up a 9/3 built 71 Challenger vert with that console, I have had a 9/7 71 Chally vert with that console, my 10/1 71 Cuda has it as well as a quite a few other cars I remember. All 3 of these cars also have the 70 style front seats with the black buttons vs the 71 Chrome ones. I have a console cassette in 1 of my 71 Cudas. They are rare, they cost a bunch of bucks back then. Depending on AM or AM/FM, they were anywheres from 2.5 to 3.5s the price of a shaker.

js27 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2005 - 06:59:17 PM »

Question 2 has been answered --early model years did skeak through with leftovers from the previous year.
Question 3-- Your engine block should have a cssting date of june or july of 69 as should most of the other engine parts--intake--exhaust--carb--water pump housing--heads--oil pump--fuel-pump-and so on. All these dates should preceed the ASSEMBLY DATE that is stamped on the pad on the left side of the block under the distriubtor. That is the date that the engine was actually put together. That date is usually about 2 or 3 weeks before the production date of the car.
Hope this helps...
Sounds like a nice ride.
JS27

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Bluemonster71 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2005 - 08:42:07 PM »

Heres two pics one cassette and console

crewcutkid · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2005 - 08:54:07 PM »

The microphone option is SUPER RARE.

JS27N0B · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2005 - 08:57:58 PM »

Quote from: js27 on April 20, 2005 - 06:59:17 PM

Question 2 has been answered --early model years did skeak through with leftovers from the previous year.
Question 3-- Your engine block should have a cssting date of june or july of 69 as should most of the other engine parts--intake--exhaust--carb--water pump housing--heads--oil pump--fuel-pump-and so on. All these dates should preceed the ASSEMBLY DATE that is stamped on the pad on the left side of the block under the distriubtor. That is the date that the engine was actually put together. That date is usually about 2 or 3 weeks before the production date of the car.
Hope this helps...
Sounds like a nice ride.
JS27

JS, you must mean 1970 not 69.

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